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Started by Tank, September 05, 2024, 07:10:34 PM

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Tank

If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

billy rubin

misinformation is a serious problem. people have always used it in po9litics and war, but its becoming much easier in th einternet world to say something false, and then to watch the ripples expand faster than anybody can ever catch up with.

in america in 1902 we did something we called the Pure Food and Drug Act, which made it a crime to sell poison to the public. i believe its time for a Pure Truth in Media Act, which would do the same thing.

details are difficult.


set the function, not the mechanism.

Asmodean

Yep. This be one of those uncommon cases where billy and The Asmo agree on a political point.

I'm not sure what such an act would practically do though, in the age of My Truth(tm) and where media find it ever more difficult to make a living from peddling facts without piling on opinion and judgement to appeal to "their bubble."

Hmm... Could one create a publicly financed media organisation, protect it from any and all government or corporate meddling and mandate it to only present verified information, with receipts where possible..? But even then, how could one keep it from rotting from the inside? Looking at the likes of you, BBC.

...Make it AI? Call it Skynet, perhaps? Teach it evil..? Yes... Yes, there might be gold in them hills... :thoughtful:

Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

billy rubin

what we need is a bureau of people, one that will decide queztions put to it, and is completely reliable

government funded, independent, above all immune from partisan influence

wait

we have that

we call it our Supreme Court


set the function, not the mechanism.

Dark Lightning

^ What kind of knife should I use to cut that irony?

billy rubin



set the function, not the mechanism.

Dark Lightning

I read that as facetious irony, "immune from partisan influence" is so not true of the current US Supreme Court.

billy rubin

the american supreme court is a farce, in my opinion.

they do not represent anything near an unbiased and consitutional position, which is their purpose.

thomas and alito have publicly shown that their influence is for sale.


set the function, not the mechanism.

zorkan

Does this mean our brains are hard-wired for fake news?
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190905-how-our-brains-get-overloaded-by-the-21st-century

Too much news means we just skim read and don't verify.

Here's some of my own:

Christianity is based on the bible.
Aliens are visiting our planet.
We are all Africans.
The moon landings had nothing to do with the Cold War.
Darwinism explains how life exists.
Shakespeare wrote Shakespeare.
History is based on real events.


 

Asmodean

Quote from: billy rubin on September 06, 2024, 04:22:34 PMwhat we need is a bureau of people, one that will decide queztions put to it, and is completely reliable

The Bureau of TRUTH(tm) :smilenod:

...That be the future.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

billy rubin



set the function, not the mechanism.

Tank

Quote from: billy rubin on September 14, 2024, 12:01:27 AMthere are some cautions

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministries_in_Nineteen_Eighty-Four



As has been said before, '1984' is a warning not a set of guidelines. I wonder what Orwell would have made of Social Media?
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

zorkan

But we all need our 2 minutes of hate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1-C1FhHl38

Works wonders for your mental health.

Asmodean

Quote from: Tank on September 14, 2024, 08:11:02 AMAs has been said before, '1984' is a warning not a set of guidelines. I wonder what Orwell would have made of Social Media?
Ah, but do they not also say that "one man's trash is another man's cash?"

One man's warning is another man's wet dream and what have you... After all, THInK oF THe CHIldReN!1!!1!!ONE ;)
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Icarus

Here is the latest scandal that we Americans must try to deal with. Foreign influence in our elections is not cool.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/10/28/the-us-spies-who-sound-the-alarm-about-election-interference?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us