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Started by Tank, August 18, 2024, 08:54:23 AM

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Tank

If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Anne D.

We have the milquetoast VP to the incumbent Democrat president who got passed good infrastructure-building legislation and other progressive initiatives on one hand. And we have the fascist Putin-ass-kissing misogynist racist xenophobe twit on the other. Not much of a debate to me. Go Kamala. And who in the hell can hate Walz?

Tank

Exactly. Harris may not be perfect but there is absolutely no comparison with the orange shit stain known as DonOLD Trump.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

billy rubin

im still writing both her campaign and the office of the vice president.

i want to see something more on israel except "thank you for the money . . ."


set the function, not the mechanism.

Tank

Yes. What Israel needs to do is transfer all Iron Dome Tech to the USA immediately. Hardly any US SAM missiles cost much less than $1m per round and if you look at some of the Navy SAMs we're talking $1.5m+ And these are being used to shoot down $20k Iranian drones in the Red Sea. Raytheon must be laughing all the way to the bank! The Iron Dome missile cost $90k 'ish. The USA military funding paid for the development of Iron Dome so technically Israel owe the US the system.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tom62

I watched Kamala's CNN "interview". I think that she performed rather badly. She looked very tired; didn't came across as a "leader"; didn't go into any details; generated a couple of word salads (as if her mouth worked faster than her brain) and didn't convince me that she was in any way authentic. What didn't help either was the place where the interview was taken. It was dark and rather gloomy. What also surprised me was that Tim Walz was at her side, as if she was not capable to handle the interview herself alone. I think that the interview was a strategic mistake and that she have to improve a lot on sincerity, trustworthiness and public appearances.
The universe never did make sense; I suspect it was built on government contract.
Robert A. Heinlein

Tank

I haven't seen it. I'll look it up.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.


Tank

If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Asmodean

I agree with Tom, though the interview overall did not have any significant impact on which side of the two candidates I fall. I'm still firmly planted with one butt cheek on either side of the fence.

I would also like something more on Israel, much like Billy, though I suspect that I would welcome "the opposite" message, that being "let/help them finish what they've started."
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Tom62

Trump's proposal to impose 10% across-the-board tariff on all products imported into the U.S. from overseas is a good argument for not voting for him.

His proposal would likely backfire, effectively acting as a tax on U.S. consumers. If the tariffs are enacted — with Trump also proposing a levy of 60% or more on Chinese imports — a typical middle-class household in the U.S. would face an estimated $1,700 a year in additional costs, according to the non-partisan Peterson Institute for International Economics. Imposing unfair tariffs could as well result in a trade war between the U.S.A. and the rest of the world.

The universe never did make sense; I suspect it was built on government contract.
Robert A. Heinlein

Recusant

Plenty of Trump voters think that tariffs are paid by the country upon whose products the tariff is imposed. They may believe that because Trump tells them so.
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken


Tom62

True! Most people in the US haven't got a clue how the economy works. Tariffs are not a good thing nor are price controls m.
The universe never did make sense; I suspect it was built on government contract.
Robert A. Heinlein

Dark Lightning

Back in 2017 after the chump gained the WH and imposed tariffs, one of my chump-supporting friends was waxing positive about those tariffs. I asked him if he knew who was actually paying those tariffs. He finally got it. He didn't vote for the chump last election, because of his massive mishandling of the COVID epidemic. His primary complaint was the classified documents Hilary was alleged to have had on some servers. We see how that turned out with the chump.

Asmodean

Trade tariffs can protect local industry by increasing its domestic competitiveness, but on a other hand, that doesn't work with export industry, which may find itself subject to counter-tariffs.

I'm generally in favour of free trade agreements. I can buy some arguments for protecting the "core" industries, such as food and energy production, but cars and cell phones..? Let the market forces decide. The competitive edge in the more "luxury" goods may not be price - innovation, product features and quality may be equally, if not more important.

Me being an outsider, it doesn't much matter to me if Trump imposes trade tariffs. Had I lived in the States, however, I too would find the idea worrying.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.