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UK General Election 2024

Started by zorkan, May 30, 2024, 02:16:37 PM

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zorkan

In 5 weeks time the polls will open to elect members of the Westminster parliament.

As usual it's just a 2 horse race between the blues (Con) and the reds (Lab).
Labour's lead has been cut from 20 plus points down to 12.

Tory PM Rishi (Richi) Sunak has assets valued at £650 million.
Devout Hindu who owns expensive properties.

Labour leader (Sir) Keir Starmer is worth £7-8 million.
Not bad when you consider his first job was picking up stones from a farmer's field.
He has been called the red knight.
His deputy is Angela Rayner from an even more humble background has been called the red queen.

Also running are the party of the centre (Lib-Dems) who are squeezed out by the other two in the battle for the centre ground.
Green Party are aiming to pick up a few seats.
Reform Party might do well, but could end up with no seats.
Nationalist parties in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are likely to lose seats.

As someone once said, there is nothing quite like a British election.
(Unless in the USA.)



Tank

If you want see an up to date and accurate assessment of the poles the BBC has an excellent site. There has been no significant change in Labour's lead at 20 points.

UK Political polls
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

zorkan

That's probably a good tracker, but the BBC are biased in favour of Labour.
The polls have been completely wrong before.
In the final week it could be all down to which party leader makes the fewest mistakes.
Look out for the Tories launching a big attack on Starmer.



Tank

"That's probably a good tracker, but the BBC are biased in favour of Labour."

Bollocks. Have you not watched Laura 'Tory Shill' Kuenssberg on a Sunday? A BBC spokesperson once pointed out 'We know we're doing right when both sides keep calling us biased.'

"The polls have been completely wrong before."

Quite so. But not all of them at once. That's also why it's worth paying attention to Prof John Curtis. He's called every election correctly in the last 40 years. And he's saying it'll be the biggest Tory slaughter there has ever been. Even the Tories know it, over 80 are not bothering to stand including the arch cunt Gove.

"In the final week it could be all down to which party leader makes the fewest mistakes."

Possible but if that's what Sunak is banking on he's already a shed load in front of Starma.

"Look out for the Tories launching a big attack on Starmer."

Typical Tory tactics, personal political attacks rather than actually presenting reasonable policies. I wouldn't buy a car off of Sunak that's for sure.


If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tank

Prof John Curtice on TV this morning pointed out that the poll difference between Labour and Conservative is currently averaged at 21 points. However there is considerable variation by poll from 12 to 27 points at the extremes.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

zorkan

Young people are more likely to vote Labour because they have had little or no experience of what a Labour government actually looks like.
Once in power the looney left will re-surface.
Starmergeddon will mean higher inflation and job losses.
Starmer's policy on climate change is something called British Energy, when there can be no such thing.
His mantra of change will become "let's wait and see".
This man is so dreary you will fall asleep listening to him.
His ideological joy ride will collapse in the face of world events.

It's not that I particularly like the Tories but there is a reason why they have been the dominant political party for a century now.
They are the lesser of the two evils.

PS. I wouldn't buy a car off Starmer.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13050159/keir-starmer-car-dent-collision-deliveroo-rider/


Tank

You're citing an article in the Sun! I'd rather believe the Bible :rofl:
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

zorkan

He was performing a U-turn when in collision with a cyclist.
A rehearsal if he gets into power.
Read here on the Daily Hate.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8890449/Photos-scratches-dent-Labour-leader-Starmers-car-crash-Deliveroo-cyclist.html

Tank

Fuking cyclists. Always in the way. :)
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tank

The latest You Gov poll, 60,000 participants, predicts Labour would win with a 194 seat majority. In 2019 the Conservatives won with an 80 seat majority which was considered a landslide win. If this comes off the Conservatives will be virtually dead as a political force in the UK.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

zorkan

Yes, but have you heard the latest bombshell?
Farage is up and running.
I revise my estimate for no seats for the Reform Party to a possible 50 and the best news Labour have had.
Could be a hung Parliament with a Lab-Lib pact.
Worst of all worlds.

Tank

Farage has stood 8 times before and failed on every attempt. There is no reason to expect he will do any better this time around.
Reform are not expected to get a single seat. However in sucking away Tory votes they are guaranteeing Labour victories where there might not have been one.
The parliament will not be hung. The Lib Dems will be lucky to get 50 seats at most.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Asmodean

What is the practical difference, if any, between a Labour-heavy Parliament and a Concervative-heavy one?
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Tank

Ideally the Labour government should be more socialist in nature.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Asmodean

Sure, I was just wondering if it was kind of like over here when it comes to the Parliament - the two largest parties here, while also on opposite sides of "Socialism," are remarkably close in the way they vote.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.