Does religion have any redeeming qualities?

[billy rubin]

i actually agree.

i have no personal knowledhe of the existence of australia, any more than i have any personal knowledge that the earth is not flat.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

The greatest redeeming quality of religions and other forms of tribes, religious or political, is to be the entity we evolve into.

Remove the tribe and what I call our evolving perfection ends.

I have a TLDR on this.

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The Gnostic Christian reality.
Gnostic Christian Jesus said,  "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all.
[And after they have reigned they will rest.]"

"If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you.

If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you.

Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you.

[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.

But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

As you can see from that quote, if we see God's kingdom all around us and inside of us, we cannot think that the world is anything but evolving perfection. Most just don't see it and live in poverty. Let me try to make you see the world the way I do.

Here is a mind exercise. Tell me what you see when you look around. The best that can possibly be, given our past history, or an ugly and imperfect world?

Candide.
"It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end."

That means that we live in the best of all possible worlds, because it is the only possible world, given all the conditions at hand and the history that got us here. That is an irrefutable statement given entropy and the anthropic principle.

Regards
DL

[MarcusA]

The greatest redeeming quality of religions and other forms of tribes, religious or political, is to be the entity we evolve into.

Remove the tribe and what I call our evolving perfection ends.

I have a TLDR on this.

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The Gnostic Christian reality.
Gnostic Christian Jesus said,  "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all.
[And after they have reigned they will rest.]"

"If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you.

If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you.

Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you.

[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.

But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

As you can see from that quote, if we see God's kingdom all around us and inside of us, we cannot think that the world is anything but evolving perfection. Most just don't see it and live in poverty. Let me try to make you see the world the way I do.

Here is a mind exercise. Tell me what you see when you look around. The best that can possibly be, given our past history, or an ugly and imperfect world?

Candide.
"It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end."

That means that we live in the best of all possible worlds, because it is the only possible world, given all the conditions at hand and the history that got us here. That is an irrefutable statement given entropy and the anthropic principle.

Regards
DL

You don't need a religion or tribe to be soulful.

[Asmodean]

...Nor do you need a soul, really, if you think about it.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

You don't need a religion or tribe to be soulful.

Statements without arguments are showing your lack of I Q.

You are proving to be a useless interlocutor.

Best to ignore me, stupid.

Regards
DL

[MarcusA]

You don't need a religion or tribe to be soulful.

Statements without arguments are showing your lack of I Q.

You are proving to be a useless interlocutor.

Best to ignore me, stupid.

Regards
DL

Very soulful. lol

[Tank]

You don't need a religion or tribe to be soulful.

Statements without arguments are showing your lack of I Q.

You are proving to be a useless interlocutor.

Best to ignore me, stupid.

Regards
DL

You've had a time out already. It appears that you didn't learn from that. 60 days off.

[billy rubin]

DL, what sources do you use beside the gospel of thomas?

[Johan Abrahams]

I think not, which is not to say that they do not exist. Religion is mere superstition, instead of reason, and suspicion, instead of love, to me.

Sure God Loves the humans and wants to redeem all of them

[Johan Abrahams]

Is religion just good politics?

If your sole object in life is power, it is.

The Life of The Father with His Family.

[Johan Abrahams]

There is no such thing as a just religion.

Just a "just" God.

[Johan Abrahams]

Does religion have any redeeming qualities?

Of course.

X is bad, he uses it to justify his evil deeds

Y is good, it helps her going through the vicissitudes.

At least you started positive.

[Johan Abrahams]

though redeeming from what?

From humanity of course.

[Johan Abrahams]

You don't need a religion or tribe to be soulful.

Statements without arguments are showing your lack of I Q.

You are proving to be a useless interlocutor.

Best to ignore me, stupid.

Regards
DL

When we perceive someone as stupid it is not his mistake.  But our perception.

[Johan Abrahams]

There is no such thing as a just religion.

The pacifist allows evil to prevail.

The just speaks to the evil.