On Genius in the Sciences

[MarcusA]

There's no such thing as genius in the sciences, there's only developed talent.

[billy rubin]

what is genius?

[MarcusA]

what is genius?

"Beauty is fame." There's no such thing as genius, only developed talent.

[MarcusA]

Humanity is exquisite.

[billy rubin]

what is genius?

"Beauty is fame." There's no such thing as genius, only developed talent.

thats what you said.

do you have a definition of genius you like to use as a reference point?

[MarcusA]

A genius is a stand-alone giant  in their field of endeavour and does not exist. A scientist is only as good as the company that they keep and people who came before them. Science, as well as art, the mirror image of science, is a co-operative effort of endurance.

[billy rubin]

so there were no geniuses before universities and libraries?

[MarcusA]

so there were no geniuses before universities and libraries?

No geniuses ever.

[No one]

Wires crossed you have, methinks.

[MarcusA]

Wires crossed you have, methinks.

I associate genius with God.

[No one]

god doesn't exist.

[MarcusA]

god doesn't exist.

It doesn't matter if he doesn't or does. People will still think that genius is a gift from him.

[MarcusA]

Genius precedes all attempts at correction.

[The Magic Pudding.]

Not much point arguing over odd personal definitions.

A person who did amazing things before they were thirty, but after nothing of note.
Is that person a still considered a genius at 50?  An honorary but not active genius?
Keith is still a genius although he's past his best.
Ye of course Keith is, that goes without saying.

[MarcusA]

Genius is a too easily attributed word for human effort.