When one conveys certain things, particularly of such gravity, should one not then appropriately cite sources, authorities...
Started by billy rubin, October 28, 2022, 10:30:44 PM
Quote from: Icarus on October 31, 2022, 01:40:59 AMSad to learn that Halloween has not gone well in Seoul. Some kind of Halloween crowd rush has killed more than 100. WTF ???
Quote from: Magdalena on October 30, 2022, 09:18:06 PMOnly you, Asmo, and maybe Tom62,
Quotewould find negativity in that quote. I see absolutely nothing about victimhood there. I don't know how you managed to go from there to there....But I will follow your words/advice, and, "...give less of a fuck about that."
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PMIn Asmo's grey lump, wrath and dark clouds gather force.Luxembourg trembles.
Quote from: Asmodean on October 31, 2022, 07:27:01 AMQuote from: Magdalena on October 30, 2022, 09:18:06 PMOnly you, Asmo, and maybe Tom62,Well, we occupy broadly similar political niche. That said,Quotewould find negativity in that quote. I see absolutely nothing about victimhood there. I don't know how you managed to go from there to there....But I will follow your words/advice, and, "...give less of a fuck about that." That is not how I see it though. Mr. King wanted his kids to grow up in a place that judges people by the content of their character, rather than the colour of their skin.So... What kind of place has the United States* become since the fifties and sixties, when I assume his kids were born? Well, if you pardon some spicy pixels on the screen, it went from "Niggers bad," through "I don't see color so hard, I end up seeing nothing else" to "Understanding Multiracial Whiteness" <- part of a real news/op-ed article, that. In any case;People who give a shit about such matters went from racist to different racist to everything is racist. The old groupings still exist, of course, but are not as dominant in media or the wider culture. People who don't give a shit... Still don't, though more and more are being dragged into a debate and "forced" to take sides. Letting them mind their own business as they would like to would be a good start, I think.Long story short, yes, it would be nice if King Jr. Jrs had such a world to grow up in, but they don't. What negativity is there, is not in the quote or the aspiration therein - it's in a world that "always" tries fighting fire with fire, then "always" complains about getting nothing but burned.
Quote from: billy rubin on October 30, 2022, 10:57:02 PMim starting to give more of a fuck, period.i used to just let the racists talk, and not call them on it, because there was no point, you know? theyll never change.lately ive started to speak my mind more and more, and to let the racists know that theyre not in a safe place around me. i have a ways to go, but i call the fuckers out more and more these days.its not hard to envision a world where we just get along with each other. i prefer not to live in a world where people express hate and hostility in security. i want them to be on the defensive every time they spew it out, t least around me.im still getting there, because i tend not to confront people, you know? its a habit thats going away. ive been cnfronting more and more of these shitheads lately and im not likely to get any nicer as time goes on, because im getting more polarized and less interested in getting along.
Quote from: Bluenose on October 31, 2022, 03:52:26 AMI went to a combined halloween/birthday party on Saturday night. Live band playing 70s and 80s covers. It was a blast!
Quote from: Asmodean on October 31, 2022, 01:34:52 PMIndeed. You see, Tom and I are what ye-average keyboard warrior on Twitter would call a pair of nazis. ...
Quote from: Tom62 on October 31, 2022, 12:46:47 PM...Furthermore, I don't feel responsible for anything that my great-, great-, great- parents might have done centuries ago.
Quote from: Magdalena on October 31, 2022, 01:49:22 PMNot sure if you're bragging or complaining.
Quote from: billy rubin on October 31, 2022, 01:48:24 PMindividualism and a meritocracy are lofty ideals, but they operate on the underlying assumption of equality in education, in opportunity, and in access to those pathways that operate based on merit and individual achievement.
Quotein my country that does not yet exist. i believe in advancing all citizens to the same starting line on the track.
Quotethose people who have been denied access to the relevant training, equipment, and sponsorship should get it, not because they are victims, but because no race is a fair race when some people get a head start and other people are forced to accept a handicap.
Quoteonce everybody runs the same race, all the talk about individual effort and merit is relevant.
Quote from: Magdalena on October 31, 2022, 02:06:30 PMQuote from: Tom62 on October 31, 2022, 12:46:47 PM...Furthermore, I don't feel responsible for anything that my great-, great-, great- parents might have done centuries ago."great-, great-, great- parents" and "Centuries" sounds like a long-, long-, long- time ago, WW II wasn't that far back.My grandpa was born in 1901.He was about 40 years old during WW II. And about 16, during WW I.Great-, great-, great-grandpa would be waaaaayyy back.—Just saying.
Quote from: Tom62 on October 31, 2022, 05:47:47 PMMy country was neutral during WW-I and occupied by the Germans in WW II. We no longer hold the current generation of Germans accountable for what their parents and grandparents did in both wars. We don't forget but we also have no grievances. Lessons learned, time to move forward because it is stupid to stay stuck in the past.