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Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald

Started by Recusant, November 11, 2015, 11:29:56 PM

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Quote from: Tom62 on June 11, 2023, 12:13:17 PMQuestion remains why it seems to be relatively easy for politicians to take sensitive documents home. Seems to me that security is rather lax. Talking about lax of security, how was Hillary Clinton able to install her own mail server for public communications and then delete tens of thousands of emails. Any "normal" person who does this, would loose his or her job and could even end up in jail. Different standards for different people?

Questions remain why some overlook attacks on common sense, decency, democratic institutions
What does this man offer them? 

Old Seer

Quote from: Tom62 on June 10, 2023, 01:18:20 PMWhat I don't get is why they not prosecute Biden, Obama, Clinton and Bush for exactly the same reasons. Biden has been stockpiling classified documents since the 1970's.
Decide for yourself. You may want to check what other legal eagles also say. I think the supreme court will get the final say. :???:

https://youtu.be/rxCDVOmGPlo
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Recusant

#1697
Direct quote from the video:

QuoteThis is the elected president of the United States. He determines if a document is declassified or not. He determines if a document is secret or not. He determines whether it's a government document or not. Congress can't do that. Justice Department can't do that. The intelligence community can't do that. This is an indictment saying, "Donald Trump used his own documents, kept his own documents, liked his own documents, and didn't want to give his own documents back." That's his constitutional right. So the problem with this case is the ENTIRE CASE IS BOGUS. Instead this is an attempt by the Deep State to overturn our constitutional democracy.

There is an issue here with "He determines whether it's a government document or not." That's in direct conflict with "This is the elected president of the United States." A president is not a king, and does not get to do as they will regardless of the laws of the United States. In any event, after January 20, 2021 Trump was no longer the elected president of the United States.

Classified documents are not "his," they are documents of the United States. While the president does have the ultimate authority regarding classifying and declassifying documents there is an established legal process for declassifying documents, which Trump did not follow. Contrary to Trump, a president can't telepathically declassify documents, and once he had left office he no longer had the authority to declassify documents.

Those who insist that Donald Trump is still the "real" president of the United States may find that video comforting, but I don't think anybody else will find it particularly convincing.

See Executive Order 12356 and Executive Order 13526, both of which are still in effect. Note that it is the president who establishes the process for classifying documents but unless a president has issued an executive order which supersedes or revokes a previous order, they are bound by the existing order.

QuoteThe courts view them as legally valid unless they violate the Constitution or existing statutes.

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billy rubin

hes not being arraigned for possessing classified documents. smith avoided that can of worms, which makes the whole "were-they-classified" argument irrelevant.

hes being arraigned for retaining and not securing sensitive defense information. doesnt matter whether they were classified or not.


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Icarus

Not jut a few critical documents, but hundreds and hundreds of them. They were in boxes stored haphazardly in Bathrooms and other curious places.

The curious part is this; why did the Donald even choose to have all that baggage in his posession?

MarcusA

I wish the Donald would just die, and then he could be a dead Duke of Bullshit.
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Icarus

I do not wish him to die. If he conked out this evening, a large element of American society would canonize him and truly believe, now and forever, that he was sent by God.

I blame him for a significant proportion of the divisiveness within our nation. He has  beguiled millions of the willfully ignorant who dwell among us. For that I do not wish him to die. I do wish him agonizing and everlasting pain in the scrotum............Nah, on second thought, that would not fix the harm that he has done.

I do hope that he loses all his goddamned golf balls. Hmmm,Florida golf courses commonly have water hazards. There be alligators in those ponds and lakes.

Tank

However he dies there will be a substantial number of his supporters that will build a conspiracy theory about it. Personally I hope he dies in public in a freak golfing accident for all to see.
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Tank

A British politician just referred to Boris Johnson as 'A pound shop Trump' :rofl:
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Icarus


Tank

We've been laughing at him for ages :D
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.