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A Different Sort of South American Trip

Started by Recusant, January 16, 2022, 02:52:53 AM

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Recusant

I think this is an interesting article, but I take issue with the dichotomy it lands on. It discusses an example of the use of psychoactive drugs in the Andes over 1,000 years ago, and questions whether such things should be "to heal or simply to party." One needn't preclude the other, in my experience. The title isn't particularly accurate, but that's show business.

"A Hallucinogenic Tree Changed How Humans Used Drugs" | The Daily Beast

QuoteThroughout the Andes, stretching skyward from dry tropical rainforests, is an inconspicuous tree that can turn your mind euphoric. While the bark of the Anadenanthera colubrina, or vilca, can be used to make tea and its leaves are used for dye, it's the thin, disc-like seeds within its flattened 13-inch-long pods that have captured people's attention for 4,000 years. They're filled with high levels of bufotenine, a potent hallucinogen similar to LSD.

To trip on vilca, modern and ancient people have smoked it or used it as an enema because you can't just eat the seeds to get high. Enzymes in the gut neutralize the psychedelic effects of vilca when it's ingested. But a new study published Wednesday in the journal Antiquity reveals that the Wari civilization that ruled the Peruvian Andes between 600 and 1,000 A.D. were perhaps the first to find a way to side-step this snag. The answer? They mixed their drugs with their beer, of course.

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"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
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Tank

This reminds me of the archaeological finding of marijuana residue in temples in early Israel.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

No one


billy rubin

whoever figured out that stuffing tree seeds up your butt would get you high?


Given that most people struggle with legible handwriting already, the added complexity of cursive is an unnecessary burden. It is more practical and efficient to stick to standard print writing.

No one


Tank

If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

No one


Tank

If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Dark Lightning

Quote from: billy rubin on January 17, 2022, 04:56:32 PM
whoever figured out that stuffing tree seeds up your butt would get you high?

I had a neighbor who his colon resected a few years ago. I'm pretty sure that it was somehow related to the peyote enemas he talked about. When one consumes peyote, one must pick out the strychnine crystals, so I'm told, if you're eating it. If not, boil the buttons, let it cool and squirt it up you ass. The strychnine doesn't have to be removed, if one does it that way. Not any sort of activity that I would want to engage in.

How about "eyeballing" vodka for a quick buzz? Ain't trying that shit, either. The problem with this, beyond the chemical irritation, is one can OD and not be able to vomit, since it isn't the alimentary canal. Fucking stupid apes, anyway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vodka_eyeballing

Icarus

Wasting perfectly good Vodka should be a misdemeanor at the very least.  The eyeball thing, sounds ever so much like an initiation ritual among college fraternities.