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Started by Papasito Bruno, June 27, 2017, 10:39:35 PM

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Asmodean

Quote...but maybe it's just as bad as a white supremacist not wanting an African American in their bloodline either.
I'd say so, with a caveat. You should be perfectly within what's socially acceptable to want whatever it is you want. Denying what's already there doesn't help, however. Also, certain ways of acting on your desire may be... Less than constructive, shall we say.

Like, if I didn't want half-Korean kids, and for that reason never slept with a Korean woman - it doesn't say anything particularly nice about me, but then again, it's well within the realm of choices I can make for myself. If, on the other hand, I didn't want half-Korean grandkids and thus got in the way of my [responsible, free-standing adult] kid sleeping with an Korean person... Yeah. By that point, gramps not only be a racist, but an asshole besides.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Magdalena

Quote from: Asmodean on May 18, 2022, 10:15:07 AM
Quote...but maybe it's just as bad as a white supremacist not wanting an African American in their bloodline either.
I'd say so, with a caveat. You should be perfectly within what's socially acceptable to want whatever it is you want. Denying what's already there doesn't help, however. Also, certain ways of acting on your desire may be... Less than constructive, shall we say.

Like, if I didn't want half-Korean kids, and for that reason never slept with a Korean woman - it doesn't say anything particularly nice about me, but then again, it's well within the realm of choices I can make for myself. If, on the other hand, I didn't want half-Korean grandkids and thus got in the way of my [responsible, free-standing adult] kid sleeping with an Korean person... Yeah. By that point, gramps not only be a racist but an asshole besides.

Yes, racist and an asshole. I can see what you mean on a personal level. If my brown-skinned man wants a white-skinned woman and his racist/ asshole uncle has a problem with it, that is HIS problem, not ours, BUT, it becomes a problem, for everyone, if his racist/ asshole uncle has a problem with our neighbors doing the same. When he starts harassing, lynching, and shooting them because he wants no one to mix races, then this is as you say, "certain ways of acting on [his] desire may be... Less than constructive."
...And criminal.


"I've had several "spiritual" or numinous experiences over the years, but never felt that they were the product of anything but the workings of my own mind in reaction to the universe." ~Recusant

billy rubin

maybe not for much longer, you know.


more people have been to berlin than i have

Magdalena


"I've had several "spiritual" or numinous experiences over the years, but never felt that they were the product of anything but the workings of my own mind in reaction to the universe." ~Recusant

billy rubin

because im not convinced that stuff that has always been considered criminal is going to stay that way.


more people have been to berlin than i have

Asmodean

Quote from: Magdalena on May 18, 2022, 10:29:54 PMYes, racist and an asshole. I can see what you mean on a personal level. If my brown-skinned man wants a white-skinned woman and his racist/ asshole uncle has a problem with it, that is HIS problem, not ours, BUT, it becomes a problem, for everyone, if his racist/ asshole uncle has a problem with our neighbors doing the same. When he starts harassing, lynching, and shooting them because he wants no one to mix races, then this is as you say, "certain ways of acting on [his] desire may be... Less than constructive."
...And criminal.
Indeed. I was as charitable as I can in my use of words, but there is indeed a line between a asshole muttering implications at family reunions and someone burning dog turds on people's porches, not to mention resorting to firearms. While still technically less than constructive, it well and truly crosses into criminal.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Magdalena

Quote from: billy rubin on May 19, 2022, 01:26:05 AMbecause im not convinced that stuff that has always been considered criminal is going to stay that way.
Like what?

"I've had several "spiritual" or numinous experiences over the years, but never felt that they were the product of anything but the workings of my own mind in reaction to the universe." ~Recusant