Dominionists in the United States

[Recusant]

It works, unfortunately.

Dominican nuns at the Stop the Steal rally in Washington DC January 6 2021.

[Recusant]

Top line finding from a recent US survey on support for "Christian nationalism" aka Dominionism-- 54% of Republicans either strongly favor Dominionism (21%) or are sympathetic to its aims (33%). One in three Approximately three in ten Americans are of the same mind.

"A Christian Nation? Understanding the Threat of Christian Nationalism to American Democracy and Culture" | PRRI

The rising influence of Christian nationalism in some segments of American politics poses a major threat to the health of our democracy. Increasingly, the major battle lines of the culture war are being drawn between a right animated by a Christian nationalist worldview and Americans who embrace the country's growing racial and religious diversity. This new PRRI/Brookings survey of more than 6,000 Americans takes a closer look at the underpinnings of Christian nationalism, providing new measures to estimate the proportion of Americans who adhere to and reject Christian nationalist ideology. The survey also examines how Christian nationalist views intersect with white identity, anti-Black sentiment, support of patriarchy, antisemitism, anti-Muslim sentiments, anti-immigrant attitudes, authoritarianism, and support for violence. Additionally, the survey explores the influence Christian nationalism has within our two primary political parties and major religious subgroups and what this reveals about the state of American democracy and the health of our society.

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[Tank]

Roll on the rapture!

[Dark Lightning]

I read that. What a revolting development. But as they age out and the younger, less religious come into their own, I'm hoping for it to die out, or at least diminish into cult status.

[Recusant]

I read that. What a revolting development. But as they age out and the younger, less religious come into their own, I'm hoping for it to die out, or at least diminish into cult status.

That is the way I hope it goes as well. Not to be forgetting though, a cohort of home-schooled children learning to follow in the footsteps of their aggressively delusional parents.

[Dark Lightning]

I read that. What a revolting development. But as they age out and the younger, less religious come into their own, I'm hoping for it to die out, or at least diminish into cult status.

That is the way I hope it goes as well. Not to be forgetting though, a cohort of home-schooled children learning to follow in the footsteps of their aggressively delusional parents.

Good point. Though I do take some hope in that, even with the indoctrination that does go on, people do still leave.

[Anne D.]

I read that. What a revolting development. But as they age out and the younger, less religious come into their own, I'm hoping for it to die out, or at least diminish into cult status.

That is the way I hope it goes as well. Not to be forgetting though, a cohort of home-schooled children learning to follow in the footsteps of their aggressively delusional parents.

Yes, stuff like this and the "trad wife" subculture dampen my optimism.

[billy rubin]

look up betrothal practices if you really want to see red

[Asmodean]

look up betrothal practices if you really want to see red

The Asmo reads: Look up brothel practices

The Asmo re-reads correctly

...On a serious note, what be happening?

[billy rubin]

theres a pravtice where the father of the bride dictates the sexual activity of the newlyweds for an indeterminate time.

more generally:

https://brucegerencser.net/2015/11/taking-new-trend-quiverfull-courtship-betrothal/

[Asmodean]

So lemme get this straight... The father of the bride dictates the newly-weds' sexual activity, and it's not even a little perverted?

I'm pretty sure I myself would run screaming at as much as the thought of being even far less involved in the love[-making] life of my kids or parents, and I'm pretty chill about sex. Some people... I just prefer to never, ever, ever see, imagine or think of doing it though.

Assuming I'm not weird like that, like... What even gives?!

[billy rubin]

i cant find tbe reference, but as i recall the brides father maintains an extended betrothal beyond the actual wedding, so that marriage consumation is delayed pending his yielding control.

its not mainstream and the fundamentslist churches where its practiced are outliers

heres onevreference. even michael pearl, an american fundamentalist, disputes thebpractice

One author I read pointed out that he is the one that coined the word "betrothal" and brought it to public light. He starts out by saying that the system he prescribes is "God's plan." But then, after taking extensive liberties with the biblical text, he concludes by saying that he does "not know" if the things he has said are the will of God. His plan includes a scheme whereby the couple would be married, but then the daughter would continue to live at home while the father would reserve to himself the right to decide when his new son-in-law could actually come and carry his bride away—could be weeks, maybe months. It is supposed to recapitulate Christ in his betrothal and wedding to his bride, the church. It was pointed out to the listeners how "exciting" this would be for the father. I kept saying to the tape, "Get a life!"
The Bible does indeed offer clear alternatives to the godless sport of dating, but you won't find them delineated in the

https://nogreaterjoy.org/articles/to-betroth-or-not-to-betroth-that-is-the-question/