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Started by Recusant, April 14, 2019, 02:50:51 AM

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Recusant

Quote from: Icarus on May 26, 2023, 11:23:05 PMHere is an article that I stumbled across. It may be thought provoking for those of us who have managed to retain a vestige of common sense. It may be a bit of the sky is fallng commentary, or maybe not. Give it a look if you have time

[https://archive.ph/bZoiJ]

Thanks for the link, Icarus. I remember when that series was on TV, but didn't have a set back then (by choice). Fascinating article. One hopes that if Johnson ever manages to get his vision of the story onto screens, its effect would be positive.  :)

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America's Best Christian:

"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken


Dark Lightning

^ It gives me heartburn to even see Empty G's face.  :(

Recusant

Indeed there is something of the gargoyle there.  :sadnod:
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken


MarcusA

Australia's religious communities are usually pretty quiet.
This user has been banned for spamming the forum.

No one

How is it possible to pack that much stupid, into one person?

Tank

Quote from: No one on June 23, 2023, 12:05:47 PMHow is it possible to pack that much stupid, into one person?

Scoop their brains out with religion.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

No one

There just seems to be more stupid per square meaning unit, then there are measuring units.

Recusant

Public school principal in Louisiana, enforcing "living in the Lord's way."

"Louisiana student's punishment for dancing video draws outrage: 'Let the girl dance'" | The Advocate

QuoteTo Rachel Timonet, the video is harmless: Just her 17-year-old daughter, Kaylee Timonet, laughing and dancing with her friends to a DJ at a party after the Walker High School homecoming.

But three days later, Jason St. Pierre, the public school's principal, stripped her daughter's title as student government president and revoked his help obtaining college scholarships, saying the video was inappropriate, Rachel Timonet says. She says St. Pierre told her daughter she wasn't "living in the Lord's way."

The move has ignited outrage and disbelief in the Livingston school district. Parents have taken to social media to decry St. Pierre's actions, comparing them to the movie "Footloose." Some have made T-shirts that say "Let the girl dance," and have encouraged other students to post "twerking" videos in support.

"I was very upset at how the situation was handled. I don't think anybody should be speaking about faith in any form. They don't know my beliefs, and it's a public school," Rachel Timonet said.

Delia Taylor, a spokesperson for the Livingston Parish School District, said the district plans to investigate the situation, but said she could not comment further.

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"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken


Tank

If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Recusant

This Dominionist twerp apparently believes that lying is a Christian virtue.  :rofl:

I don't think he's the only one, given that "lying for Jesus" is remarkably common.

"GOP lawmaker accuses law school of anti-Christian bias after it confirms he lied about attending" | AlterNet

QuoteA far-right Republican state lawmaker from North Dakota is lashing out at the University of Minnesota law school after the school reiterated that he was not a student there.

Rep. Brandon Prichard, who was elected in 2022, has made numerous comments and anecdotes about attending the University of Minnesota Law School. According to Fargo, North Dakota newspaper The Forum, Prichard recently commented about being a law student at the University of Minnesota at the end of the most recent legislative session while speaking against a wind energy bill. But when the law school posted to X (formerly Twitter) that Rep. Prichard was not enrolled there, he took to the airwaves to attack the school for having an alleged bias against Christians, and suggested he may sue the law school for unspecified reasons.

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Prichard has made a name for himself as one of the North Dakota legislature's most ardent opponents of LGBTQ+ rights. The freshman lawmaker sponsored a bill to ban drag shows, and earlier this month suggested "every conservative state should put into code that Jesus Christ is King and dedicate their state to Him." He's also called for banning public universities from having same-sex homecoming royalty (after North Dakota State University crowned two homecoming kings), wants to ban pornography, and has even gone so far as to say that followers of non-Christian religions should have their right to worship curtailed.

[Link to full article.]
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken


Tank

If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Icarus

Dumb ass needs to read his bible for more informed guidance. According to the "good Book", Jesus did not discriminate. When JC is ourhis Lord and savior, we are obligated to follow the examples of that son of God..

Recusant

#207
The bigotry is inherent to Dominionism. I wouldn't expect anything else from a Dominionist, given it has always been an explicitly white nationalist Christo-fascist project. His positions on the known hot-button topics aren't especially notable in my opinion, though I understand your reaction.

I found his claim that it's anti-Christian to call out his lie to be amusingly on-the-nose though. How dare a mere secular institution presume to do such a thing, really. They're the bigots, objecting to his expression of Christianity (which in this instance is lying about his education). By pointing out his lie they're oppressing him and obstructing his free exercise of religion!
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken


Icarus

Christo-fascists have made a hobby of creating barriers for a certain element of our society. Gerrymandering is only one of the gimmicks that seek to eliminate so many people from exercising their legal voting privilege.

Well whoopee, there are some efforts at play for fighting back. Here is Politics Girl telling us that a bit of help does actually exist.





For those of you have not discovered this fiery lady, perhaps you might give her your approval.......

Recusant

Aye, there are people working to try to thwart the minority-rule agenda.

Meanwhile the Republican Party just put a Dominionist in as Speaker of the House. Praise Jebus!

"Of Little Faith" | Campaign Trails

QuoteSpeaker Johnson has done a lot to keep his personal views hidden, telling reporters asking about his worldview: "Go pick up a Bible." That's both a huge humblebrag, implying that all his earthly actions are in accordance with the literal word of God, and a disingenuous dodge that obscures the practical details of his politics.

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. . .  Johnson is not surprisingly a devotee of the Religious Right's favorite pretend historian, David Barton, whose books are so divorced from the actual history that his conservative Christian publisher once had to recall one of them for passing along fake quotes from the Founding Fathers.

In the interview, Johnson does a very familiar routine, cherry-picking a few select quotations from the Founders to imply that they basically wanted a theocratic government, and ignoring the many other quotations from them making clear that these Enlightenment figures absolutely did not want that.

For just one example, Johnson quotes John Adams, who wrote in a letter that "Our Constitution is made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for government of any other." He doesn't note that, in his duties as president, Adams signed the Treaty of Tripoli, which stated quite clearly that "the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."

The first quote, which he leans on heavily, is the private expression of a single man; the second is an official government position in a binding treaty that was launched by Washington, signed by Adams and ratified by a U.S. Senate whose ranks were half-filled with men who crafted the Constitution. Which one is more indicative of "the Founders"?

And that's a key point here. When the Religious Right tries to engage us in a game of "quote/counterquote," we should look past the varied and often contradictory words of the Founding Fathers — who were often said contradictory things because they were, you know, arguing with each other — and instead focus on the actual deeds that they accomplished as one.

Don't listen to a cherry-picked Adams quote about who the Constitution was written for, look at what the Constitution actually says! The only mentions of religion in there are measures that keep religion and government at arm's length from each other — no religious tests for office holders, no establishment of a national religion, no interference with individuals' rights to worship or not as they saw fit. That is what the Founders actually wanted.

But Johnson, selling the same snake oil as David Barton, hand waves past all that to imply that the Founders unanimously agreed that Americans had to be religious and that their common government — so carefully constructed to keep religion out of it, and it out of religion — was actually a religious compact in which "there has to be a consensus on virtue and morality," a consensus which Mike Johnson would surely think embodied his own personal brand of faith.

[Continues . . .]

I've mentioned Barton a number of times. For example.
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken