Look, I haven't mentioned Zeus, Buddah, or some religion.
Started by Sandra Craft, December 19, 2018, 01:00:35 AM
QuoteMay all beings have happiness and the cause of happiness.May they be free of suffering and the cause of suffering.May they never be disassociated from the supreme happiness which is without suffering.May they remain in the boundless equanimity, free from both attachment to close ones and rejection of others.Notice that no deity is invoked or petitioned. The prayer takes the form of a wish that all beings will be well. The intention is to promote the development of loving kindness, compassion, sympathetic joy, and equanimity in oneself by wishing the same for all beings.
QuoteFor the atheist, such as myself, proper humility can be a difficult virtue to cultivate. Without a God, it is easy to lose proper perspective and a sense of my small place in the world. Worse, lack of humility may become arrogance and produce an inflated sense of control, setting me up for disappointment to which I may react with anger and frustration.
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 19, 2018, 09:07:33 PMBeing a never-theist I don't have any residual tendencies which involve speaking to myself as if speaking to a god. I can understand why ex-theists would probably continue to pray though -- it might have a calming effect -- but I just don't really see myself doing it. To me prayer is a pointless exercise, but harmless in general as it doesn't incite any action from any deity. Since it's mostly harmless, what do I care if people do it?
Quote from: Mr. IXTUS on January 17, 2019, 08:43:35 PMMy thoughts on the prayer would be this: the prayer is worded like a supplication, and a supplication is addressed to a person of some sort. However, neither a Buddhist or an Atheist believe in a personal God who exists to listen. So this could be a prayer to no one, or to oneself.
QuotePraying to no one makes no sense. If praying to oneself, then this prayer seems to be an attempt to exert one's own will into or onto reality.
QuoteBy what power?
QuoteA Buddhist at least believes in a supernatural reality, and that this reality is illusory (and therefore somewhat malleable) so perhaps it is reasonable for a Buddhist to pray to himself.
QuoteBut an Atheist believes in nothing supernatural, so what reason is there for an Atheist to pray at all, in any direction, if it's really just a wish in a material world?
Quote from: Mr. IXTUS on January 18, 2019, 10:24:13 PM"Really, did you read the article? It covers that."I was about to say yes (thinking you meant your post) when I saw the link you pasted above the quote you provided. So no, sorry I didn't read the article. My thoughts were only on the quote itself, so disregard if indeed they are repetitive. Other than that it seems like you thought I meant to attack you. That was not the intent.
Quote from: Tank on January 18, 2019, 08:47:52 AM"Praying to no one makes no sense"Then why do you do it?