if there were no need for 'engineers from the quantum plenum' then we should not have any unanswered scientific questions.
Started by Tank, January 02, 2018, 06:46:21 PM
Quote from: Tank on May 13, 2020, 07:35:22 PMMy common response too 'You believe in evolution!' is 'Only an idiot believes in evolution; I understand it, which is very different.'
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PMIn Asmo's grey lump, wrath and dark clouds gather force.Luxembourg trembles.
Quote from: Davin on May 14, 2020, 04:36:59 PMBelief is only accepting something as true. That doesn't explain how one got there. I believe in evolution because of how well it explains the facts. This is not the same as believing in a god because there is no rational path to a belief in a god.
Quote from: LifeisSweet on February 19, 2021, 07:06:42 PMBumpOne of the more common definitions of atheism is "The lack of belief in a god", but I find this definition too broad because it includes people who do not have the mental capacity to understand the concept of a god, such as infants, young children, and those with severe mental incapacities. Infants do not believe in god, but we don't usually classify them as atheists. This definition also includes many agnostics who don't believe in god, but also don't not believe in god. And it includes some spiritualists who do not believe in the common conception of a god but do believe in an afterlife and some energy or force that their spirit joins in a conscious state after death.I prefer to define atheism as a positive belief rather than a lack of belief, that is, "The belief that there are no deities". This applies only to those who have the ability to believe and have consciously rejected the belief in a god. It could be widened if desired to also reject belief in an afterlife or the supernatural, such as "The belief that there are no deities, no conscious state of existence after death, and no rational support for the supernatural". This best describes me, although it may need a different word since atheism generally only refers to belief in a god.In any case, it's just a label. What is important is that you live your belief, not justify or defend it. If a theist truly wants to debate me I could certainly have some fun, but it is kind of like debating the existence of Santa Claus with a child or pulling the crutches away from a disabled person - easy but not very satisfying and could possibly cause pain to the other person. I am happy to just smile a lot with the firm but silent belief that I understand and accept reality without the need for comforting fairy tales. In other words, a "Happy Atheist".
Quote from: Tom62 on February 20, 2021, 06:20:43 AMI agree with Randy. Atheism isn't a believe but an absence of believe. Theist are unable to provide evidence for their claims, which makes their claims unbelievable.
Quote from: Icarus on January 02, 2018, 11:34:16 PMTo explain atheist point of view to a dedicated theist is almost always an exercise in futility. There is a message in the bible that addresses that reality. See Proverbs 18:2.....A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.I have tried on more than a few occasions to explain some of the details about the history of their good book, the bible or the history of their God . That is mostly where the conversation ends because they will hear none of it.
Quote from: No one on January 02, 2018, 06:55:55 PMAtheism is the only true path to enlightenment. If you don't agree, I will have to kill you.