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Another Mass Shooting

Started by Recusant, October 02, 2017, 06:58:25 PM

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Tank

If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Tank

I've finished reading all the forums now.  ;D
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Asmodean

I was trying to be subtle through the use of title and the location of the shooting being otherwise-peaceful Norway.

You see, my post was made when this thread was still hot, and "every time" there is a mass shooting in the US, there is a clash of pro- and anti-gun lobbies everywhere from the halls of power to the darkest back alleys.

Well, our gun laws did not help the victims of the shooting I mentioned. They did not prevent the perpetrator from not only obtaining weapons and ammunition, but also using them to lethal effect. They did not deter the perp and they did nothing to aid the victims.

Still, our pro-gun people are very careful about using this as a platform from which to proclaim that if only there was an armed civilian there, lives could have been saved. Equally, the anti-gun people are very careful about proclaiming that all guns need to be confiscated and destroyed immediately. Some of it is just people trying to avoid any heat - the cowards (Nah. Not really. Although, a little bit, maybe) some of it though is people realising that it's harder to deny a criminal (or a criminal-to-be) the tools of his trade than merely passing a law.

Law-abiding citizens obey the law - hence the definition. Criminals don't give a shit when it suits them - or when they think they can get away with it.

...So here it is. Whatever your preferred brand of social engineering - don't expect too much from it. All it takes to topple it (if for a time) is an occasional guy who just doesn't give a fuck.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Tank

Split it back if you like, I won't merge it again.  :)
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Asmodean

Nah. Just discussed the issue in my previous post.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

billy rubin

the islam thing seems to be mostly western europe

i am leaving out the vastly more murderous examples of muslims in muslim countries killing other muslims over religion and politics

here in the states mass murders . . . mostly . . . seem either racist or some white guy with a gun running amok.

amoks are exactly appropriate, imo. but nobody makes the parallel here


more people have been to berlin than i have