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Dr. Jeffrey Long's two cents on consciousness surviving death:

Started by manga, April 26, 2017, 11:31:07 PM

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Quote from: Recusant on May 04, 2017, 10:40:51 PM
Let's bring some science into this (since it is posted on the Science board, after all) with a fine comic strip from The Oatmeal:


I am what survives if it's slain - Zack Hemsey


Quote from: manga on April 26, 2017, 11:31:07 PMDr Long has the largest database of 1600 NDEs, and he claims that all of the OBEs he has tested yield 97.5% accuracy. One example is a man who had cardiac arrest, was able to see a nurse clean his mouth with specifically a pink cloth, he was able to identify which doctor out of 3 was shining a light in his eyes, and he saw a nervous looking woman staring from behind curtains at the procedure. He was able to identify the woman was blonde, and that was all true. Dr. Long also states that only 1 in 1000 report any awareness during anesthesia. How then, did he have 20 out of 200 cases where people under anesthesia were able to have OBEs? Dr. Penny Sartori, another researcher and medical doctor, says that she has had cases of hallucinations which are fragmented, and they are confusing, while NDErs and OBErs have clearer than normal perceptions and visions. According to Dr. Long, 76% of experiencers claimed that they had more vivid visions than real life.
Does this prove the afterlife?
Absolutely NOT . The clue is in the letter "N" of NDE which stands for near, how does being nearly dead prove an afterlife? Surely you would need to be actually dead and then return to life in order to prove post mortem existence, also why would you trust what's happening to a dying brain? It sounds a bit suspect to me.