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Why Creationism Shouldn't Be Taught in Schools

Started by Squid, January 21, 2010, 01:28:00 AM

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princesmith

The left dont want anything to do with God, and when bad things happen they ask where God was. Its like, you asked Him to leave!!

Thumpalumpacus

Quote from: "princesmith"The left dont want anything to do with God, and when bad things happen they ask where God was. Its like, you asked Him to leave!!

1)  I didn't ask "him" to leave.  He bailed out and left me hanging.
2)  I haven't asked where god is for 30+ years, because I konw where he is: in the minds of believers, and nowhere else.
3)  I'm pretty sure that Jesus supported socialism:

     a) He provided free health care to the poor
     b) He ran a food pantry which famously fed people bread and fish
     c) He advised rich people to sell everything they had and give the earnings to the poor.
     d) He warned rich folk that it's easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle than it will be for them to ascend.
     e) According to Luke, Jesus said that Heaven is the Kingdom of the poor.
     f) Jesus says in the parable of Last Judgment, "As you've done to the least of men, you have done to me."

These are all clearly socialist positions, but the parallels go further:

     g) If you do not agree with the party line, you will be shunned for all time.
     h) If you go against the word of the party, you will be sent to GULAG.
     i)  In worldly socialism, you cannot escape the prying eyes of the State; your kids, your mother, your boss will report your malfeasances.  In Christian socialism, God is everywhere and sees everything you've done.
     j) The first one to stop applauding Stalin was regarded as suspect.  They first one to stop praying to God is viewed as less faithful.
     k)  Catholics are staunchly against cremation, as they believe the soul must have a vessel when the dead rise.  Premier Krushchev said, "We will bury you!"
     l)  Like Christians, socialists tend to sanctimony.

... and the list goes on ...
Illegitimi non carborundum.

Troll god

I have three reasons why creationism shouldn't be taught in schools.

1-Because there are over 150 stories of creationism.

2-Because not even one of these stories has been proved to be real.

3-Because in the schools is already taught abiogenesis and evolution, both of these go in conflict with creationism, and that would confuse the students. Schools are not places to get confused, but to get smarter.
IN INFERIS MELIUS EST REGNARE, QUAM IN COELIS SERVIRE!

statichaos

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Quote from: princesmith on November 27, 2010, 12:55:36 PM
The left dont want anything to do with God, and when bad things happen they ask where God was. Its like, you asked Him to leave!!

I know that this is from quite some time ago, and I do not expect a response, but I need to make one thing abundantly clear:

I am on the left politically.

My faith is STRONG.

Please, do not ever confuse political orientation with faith.  Jesus would be very, very disappointed in you for that.

I also don't believe that creationism should be taught in public schools for all of the excellent reasons already described.  The government has NO place giving religious instruction, and that's essentially what creationism is.  Yes, even "intelligent design".  Because you know what?  If you teach one creation story, then you have to give equal time to all of them.  Do you really want children taught the Native American creation myths in biology class?  How about the Hawaiian one?  Or the traditional Greek one?  Egyptian?  Shinto?  Scientology?

Best to let the scientists teach science, and leave the rest up to the families and their houses of worship.

jumbojak

Quote from: Tank on July 01, 2010, 10:39:03 PM
Quote from: FilanthropodYou're not calling me a moron, are you Tank? I suppose you're not. There are rules here, after all.
In for a penny in for a pound as they say. No. I'm calling you a Moron, you walk like a Moron, talk like a Moron and quack like a Moron. Can I be more explicit? No I don't think so. I'll take my strips, but you'll still be a Moron spouting moronic ideas provided to you by other morons who think that using long words will make them sound smart through their dullard mindless and delusional maundering. People like you who hold ideas like you are singularly dangerous to humanity. You despoil all that is good about humanity. You deny real science and attempt to insert your own strawman in its place. Your behaviour and attitude are truly despicable, I have nothing but contempt for people like you and the ideas you spout from the pulpit of selfish insanity. I'm not scared of calling a moron a moron and you sir, are a moron.

That was beautiful Tank. It really pulled at my heartstrings and made reading this entire thread worthwhile.

"Amazing what chimney sweeping can teach us, no? Keep your fire hot and
your flue clean."  - Ecurb Noselrub

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Tank

Quote from: jumbojak on October 28, 2012, 04:57:27 AM
Quote from: Tank on July 01, 2010, 10:39:03 PM
Quote from: FilanthropodYou're not calling me a moron, are you Tank? I suppose you're not. There are rules here, after all.
In for a penny in for a pound as they say. No. I'm calling you a Moron, you walk like a Moron, talk like a Moron and quack like a Moron. Can I be more explicit? No I don't think so. I'll take my strips, but you'll still be a Moron spouting moronic ideas provided to you by other morons who think that using long words will make them sound smart through their dullard mindless and delusional maundering. People like you who hold ideas like you are singularly dangerous to humanity. You despoil all that is good about humanity. You deny real science and attempt to insert your own strawman in its place. Your behaviour and attitude are truly despicable, I have nothing but contempt for people like you and the ideas you spout from the pulpit of selfish insanity. I'm not scared of calling a moron a moron and you sir, are a moron.

That was beautiful Tank. It really pulled at my heartstrings and made reading this entire thread worthwhile.

I'd forgotten that rant, thank you for reminding me  :D
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Asmodean

Ah! Oldies revisited. I think I was gone while this was posted, otherwise, there might have been some Gray Rants in it too. Still, Tank did a fair approximation of Asmostyle.  :D
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

solidsquid

I totally missed this whole debate within this thread...it's like I post the first post and *poof* I was gone...all well. I'm sure there'll be other intellectual battles to be had in the future...