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Started by Tank, February 03, 2014, 08:45:37 AM

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Tank

I'm not sure I have seen a gender difference to atheism. What makes you think this?
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Asmodean

Yeah, beyond localised cultural trends (or sometimes, what is culturally trendy), I don't see it either.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Icarus

Gender based religious preferences not my opinion. The remark was made in response to an elaborate article I read about the subject. Sadly I failed to post the link to the article because of my frequent incompetence with the damned computer.  My Bad!

Tank

It would be interesting to read if you find it again.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Icarus

This is from an article at Religion Dispatches.org  I found it in the RD archives. While searching I uncovered an  article from a different source that claimed quite the opposite. I believe that the latter was referring to European society, while the RD article was referring to American society.

https://religiondispatches.org/the-overwhelming-whiteness-and-increasing-maleness-of-u-s-churches-isnt-an-accident-its-a-selling-point/

Recusant

"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken


Asmodean

Mmh... Yeah, but I would like to raise a issue;

QuoteScholars have long noted that atheism skews male. Meanwhile, critics have pointed toward the apparent dominance of male authors in the "new atheism" movement as evidence of a "boys club." Indeed, a quick scan of the best-selling books on atheism on Amazon indicates that almost all of them are written by male authors.

How does being an author relate to being male, relate to being Atheist, relate to having published, relate to your book being on Amazon?

This would need some serious substantiation and/or mental contortion... Or a "all other things being equal" disclaimer.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Icarus

Mother Nature is a bitch that has relegated we humans to a lesser degree of importance..............Crabs rule?


Dark Lightning

Quote from: Asmodean on October 07, 2024, 07:29:14 AMMmh... Yeah, but I would like to raise a issue;

QuoteScholars have long noted that atheism skews male. Meanwhile, critics have pointed toward the apparent dominance of male authors in the "new atheism" movement as evidence of a "boys club." Indeed, a quick scan of the best-selling books on atheism on Amazon indicates that almost all of them are written by male authors.

How does being an author relate to being male, relate to being Atheist, relate to having published, relate to your book being on Amazon?

This would need some serious substantiation and/or mental contortion... Or a "all other things being equal" disclaimer.

If you ask me...white males in general have gained the ability to say what they please, more than men of any other color, and most women, of any color. Whether or not anyone other than them are atheists, there's a lot mitigating against them admitting so. The majority of white males in the atheist pretty much predicts the preponderance of their books, anywhere. /my take

Anne D.

Maybe us ladyfolk are just as likely to be atheist but just try harder not to be insufferable about it : )

Tank

Quote from: Anne D. on October 19, 2024, 04:56:59 PMMaybe us ladyfolk are just as likely to be atheist but just try harder not to be insufferable about it : )

:rofl: Yep that's probably the case. The online 'community' does tend to the loudmouth end of the male population when it comes to atheism/theism.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

billy rubin

Quote from: Anne D. on October 19, 2024, 04:56:59 PMMaybe us ladyfolk are just as likely to be atheist but just try harder not to be insufferable about it : )

why is that?

women can be assholes but they seem to be better about not being one.

what is it about being male that makes us jerks?

margaret thatcher excepted. and others


Just be happy.

Asmodean

Quote from: Dark Lightning on October 14, 2024, 01:04:16 AMIf you ask me...white males in general have gained the ability to say what they please, more than men of any other color,
In a manner. In The West(tm), that is true as a result of European and then subsequently American cultural dominance. In China, those males are more Asian than Huwhite. In Ghana, they are African. So forth.

That is not to say, however, that a person of a different ethnicity, who is still a part of cultural majority, has less of an ability to express himself than the person of a dominant ethnicity. Of course, this may very quickly change by adding layers such as religion. Freedom of (and from) religion is far less spread than one might think.

Quoteand most women, of any color.
Historically, that comes down to a multitude of factors, such as access to education, roles in the society and so forth. So, the vast majority of written works from the past have been penned by men, or sometimes women writing under a pseudonym.

Today, any-one who so desires can become an author. It is, however, a highly competitive business that takes a lot of luck as well as talent and hard work. In this instance, they are discussing "new Atheism," so I suspect these factors come to play to a far larger degree than the one mentioned above.

That analysis is, however, absent from the article in question.

QuoteWhether or not anyone other than them are atheists, there's a lot mitigating against them admitting so. The majority of white males in the atheist pretty much predicts the preponderance of their books, anywhere. /my take
It may also be that men are generally more likely to start a business, which being an author pretty much is.

I don't know - my point is just that in all likelihood, neither does the person opining in the quote.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
In Asmo's grey lump,
wrath and dark clouds gather force.
Luxembourg trembles.

Recusant

A deep sea octopus hunting/travelling in a fascinating way . . .



QuoteDeep under the Pacific Ocean, marine scientists recorded a sight rarely seen by humans: an octopus billowy-bouncing across the seafloor at a depth of 4,800 meters (15,750 feet) – smack bang in the abyssal zone.

The expedition was the Trans-Pacific Transit, and researchers from the University of Western Australia aboard the vessel Dagon used submerged laboratories to peek at the life that thrives in the freezing cold temperatures, crushing pressures, and permanent darkness far below the ocean waves.

Their video shows an octopus known as a big-eye jellyhead (Cirrothauma cf. magna).

We don't know much about this octopus; where it lives is extremely difficult for humans to explore, so we don't exactly get to observe it in its natural abyssopelagic habitat on a regular basis.

A 1997 study offers some clues about the strange boinging. It describes observations of cirrate octopuses bouncing along the seafloor in the same fashion, and refers to it as a form of locomotion.

[. . .]

But there could be a bit more to it. We've also seen related cirrate octopuses hopping along the ocean floor in a similar fashion at shallower depths, which could be another clue about what the heck this bouncy lil ocky is doing.

In a paper published last year in Proceedings of the Royal Society B: Biological Sciences, marine scientist Alexey Golikov of the GEOMAR Helmholtz Centre for Ocean Research in Germany and his colleagues described a bouncing foraging behavior observed in the cirrate octopus known as the big-finned jellyhead (Cirroteuthis muelleri).

This octopus, the researchers described, performs the same sequence as observed in the recent video of the big-eye jellyhead.

It bounces itself up off the seafloor; at the apex of each bounce, it spreads its arms, ballooning out the membrane between them to land on the seafloor. During this touchdown, the octopus captures any prey that it managed to encompass, before bouncing up again and repeating the sequence.

The observations, obtained between 2020 and 2022, marked the first time this feeding behavior had been seen and documented in cirrate octopuses.

[Full article at Science Alert.]
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken


Icarus

The octopus in the video appears to be enjoying himself....or herself.