You Lost One - Atheist Converts

[Stevil]

I don't know why she chose Catholicism in particular though as the best expression for her new found Truth. Comes with the package, I'd like just for curiosity's sake see how she can justify the objective moral truths behind things like intolerance towards homosexuality, abortion or not distributing anti-contraception or condoms in Africa where AIDS runs rampant assuming her views were contrary to the Church's position before she converted.

Absolutely.

I doubt she will last in the Catholic faith, so many things for her to take on board without question.
The immorality of IVF, of sex education, of stemcell research, of homosexuality, of sex without intending to procreate, the guilt trips, the infallibility of the church, the position of women in society and in the church.

Quite frankly, I don't know how anyone can accept Catholicism. Its so strict, so rigid, so oppressive. And you get to imagine you are eating and drinking Jesus.

[Sweetdeath]

If she starts to accept the dehumanization of others who aren't an "us" (i.e Catholic in her case), then it will be. That and other atrocities.

Muslims are an inferior race and don't have a soul, they worship the wrong god so they're just as good as animals. They were given a choice but they chose to continue to worship their false god. They deserved it.

Funny, as Muslims feel that way about non Muslims.

[Sweetdeath]

I don't know why she chose Catholicism in particular though as the best expression for her new found Truth. Comes with the package, I'd like just for curiosity's sake see how she can justify the objective moral truths behind things like intolerance towards homosexuality, abortion or not distributing anti-contraception or condoms in Africa where AIDS runs rampant assuming her views were contrary to the Church's position before she converted.

Absolutely.

I doubt she will last in the Catholic faith, so many things for her to take on board without question.
The immorality of IVF, of sex education, of stemcell research, of homosexuality, of sex without intending to procreate, the guilt trips, the infallibility of the church, the position of women in society and in the church.

Quite frankly, I don't know how anyone can accept Catholicism. Its so strict, so rigid, so oppressive. And you get to imagine you are eating and drinking Jesus.

I ask myself this constantly, as i live in a mostly Catholic area. It's like "How can you stomach this garbage?"
Oh yeah, they probably never actually read the bible OR actually accept this sexist, racist bullshit as the truth. In which case, i would love for 'horrible ' things to happen to them , like their kids getting knocked up or being homosexual.

[OldGit]

Quite frankly, I don't know how anyone can accept Catholicism.

I would probably believe it if I had been brainwashed from babyhood.  I am always a bit surprised, as well as glad, when I see escapees sign on here.

[fester30]

The comment Asmodean made about someone being so far beneath the Clay Crusader intellectually must be taken with a coagulated lump of salt.  The Mud Marauder finds most humanoids beneath it intellectually.

[AnimatedDirt]

The comment Asmodean made about someone being so far beneath the Clay Crusader intellectually must be taken with a coagulated lump of salt.  The Mud Marauder finds most humanoids beneath it intellectually.

I don't think so.  There is a usual sense of comedic relief when he does so not to mention his trademark (tm) that usually accompanies these.

That...and he didn't try and clarify from that 'The Asmo' perspective as he does clearly, but from a personal perspective.

[Asmodean]

The comment Asmodean made about someone being so far beneath the Clay Crusader intellectually must be taken with a coagulated lump of salt.  The Mud Marauder finds most humanoids beneath it intellectually.

I don't think so.  There is a usual sense of comedic relief when he does so not to mention his trademark (tm) that usually accompanies these.

That...and he didn't try and clarify from that 'The Asmo' perspective as he does clearly, but from a personal perspective.

...And if you actually read the post, particularly the second part, you may, and I stress may, find some less-than-comic sense there that does not call for the application of (tm) or other accessories.

[AnimatedDirt]

The comment Asmodean made about someone being so far beneath the Clay Crusader intellectually must be taken with a coagulated lump of salt.  The Mud Marauder finds most humanoids beneath it intellectually.

I don't think so.  There is a usual sense of comedic relief when he does so not to mention his trademark (tm) that usually accompanies these.

That...and he didn't try and clarify from that 'The Asmo' perspective as he does clearly, but from a personal perspective.

...And if you actually read the post, particularly the second part, you may, and I stress may, find some less-than-comic sense there that does not call for the application of (tm) or other accessories.

Now all of a sudden...??

After you initially felt attacked and also felt I was putting words in your mouth?

Ok...

[Ali]

I found all of the quotation marks in Asmo's OP to be slightly humorous.  Because I pictured the gray glob doing all of the quote marks with his fingers in such quick succession that he looked like he was playing Little Bunny FuFu.   

[Asmodean]

It takes a lot more to make me feel attacked - an actual attack, for instance. You have somewhat of a reputation with me for putting words in people's mouths, however.

What I was saying, was that there is a good and valid point to the italic sentense in my previous comment. I do indeed see most humanoids as beneath me intellectually because they sort of... Are. The degree of it varies though, from insignificant, which has no impact on my personal interactions with the individual to catastrophic, in which case I will usually go out of my way to avoid such interactions.

[AnimatedDirt]

It takes a lot more to make me feel attacked - an actual attack, for instance. You have somewhat of a reputation with me for putting words in people's mouths, however.

You can find me any sort you wish to.

What I was saying, was that there is a good and valid point to the italic sentense in my previous comment. I do indeed see most humanoids as beneath me intellectually because they sort of... Are. The degree of it varies though, from insignificant, which has no impact on my personal interactions with the individual to catastrophic, in which case I will usually go out of my way to avoid such interactions.

I don't see any mention of 'humanoids' but a direct mention of 'adult atheists who "find"... .

What exactly do "we" lose that "we" shouldn't be glad to see the back of?

Frankly, I consider adult atheists who "find" some form of "god" so far beneath me intellectually that I lose all interest in them if I had any to begin with.

Being raised to believe in fairy tales and holding on to it is one thing, giving up the magic and then re-integrating it into one's life is quite another (As for never-theists, I do not know of any converts from that group who stayed converted for any prolonged period of time)

But now it was a comedic post directed at humanoids.  Ok.  I'll let you "win" this one.

[Asmodean]

I don't see any mention of 'humanoids' but a direct mention of 'adult atheists who "find"... .

I think we are talking about different posts. I was not refering to the OP, but to the post you quoted before we started this round, which should be relatively obvious through my reference to an italic line of text in a quote within the post where said reference was made.

[Recusant]

I hope that S. E. Cupp doesn't feel like Ms. Libresco has stolen her thunder. I'm still optimistic that I'll read sometime soon that she's seen the light, too!

I think this conversion was a good thing. Libresco is comfortably ensconced in the arms of the Catholic god, which she believes is the source of objective morality, and has provided an excellent source of material to all the commenters on both sides of the conversation.

[Ali]

When I first saw this thread, SE Cupp was the first person I thought of. 

I genuinely dislike her (SE Cupp) and that is pretty rare for me.

[MadBomr101]

It takes a lot more to make me feel attacked - an actual attack, for instance. You have somewhat of a reputation with me for putting words in people's mouths, however.

Put some words in my mouth now, Asmo, but be gentle.  It's my first time.