Why is socialism bad?

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Re: Why is socialism bad?

Postby -43- » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:30 am

Einstein, he's a great political philosopher to the plebs.
I'm a miniarchist, so I detest government, Socialism is a giant lumbering inefficient mess.


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Re: Why is socialism bad?

Postby Brizz » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:25 am

-43- wrote:Socialism is a giant lumbering inefficient mess.


But....capitalism is evil! lol
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Re: Why is socialism bad?

Postby KayLP87 » Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:34 am

-43- wrote:Einstein, he's a great political philosopher to the plebs.
I'm a miniarchist, so I detest government, Socialism is a giant lumbering inefficient mess.


Yah its so bad, Capitalism is the best. It is the system that forced by Dad to give up on his dream of being a teacher because after his 2 bouts with Hodgkin's Dieses he was so in debt because of medical bills that he could not return to college, he had to work full time. It is the same system that because he does not have a college degree he has to work nights stocking shelves at a local supermarket to pay bill's. A job, because of his health, that he will not be able to work much longer, and he cannot yet afford to retire. He cannot find any other jobs that pay what he is getting right now, that would require less physical labor. If my dad had been born just 50 miles North of here, in Canada he probably would be living a much more comfortable life. :shake:
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Re: Why is socialism bad?

Postby Spatiality » Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:54 pm

Honestly, I do find the majority of the free American people to be incompetent. Smarter people are waiting to have children and are establishing balanced lives. Where as uneducated people have a many more children teaching them bad life skills at home which bleeds into our education system. Socialism shouldn't be about taking away freedom and creating a conformist society. It should be associated with teaching tolerance to all, providing a stable country, and eliminating violence. I think America could be better if they stop letting alcohol and fire arms in the hands of mentally unstable people that keep the media running in circles. Maybe then we can advance in science. China is getting ahead of the world, but then again they had a 4000 years head start!
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Re: Why is socialism bad?

Postby Minkyaman » Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:52 pm

Went to the library one day and decided to check out books on socialism, communism, and marxism. It was kinda nice, ya know, being able to wander into an institution and get books on subjects that I wanted to read about. If only socialism weren't so evil and bad it might work right.

After the extensive research and years of thinking the same way, I concluded the only form of government that is best in its purest form is communism. Now knowing nothing is capable of being truly pure, I amended my hypothesis that communism really only works in small groups. I was able to test it using MMO's. Now people may laugh but the thing is MMO's can be used to study social interactions in a limited role. An example in my own experience is when I played Star Wars Galaxies, which had a truly capitalistic economy where the best 'crafters' made the most money and you could set up shops and your name got around the server as making the best gear or food or equipment. My guild was a little smaller than most, numbering between 10-20 people, and we decided to use communism to run the guild, where no money was exchanged between us and we shared everything. Our leader was the leader because someone had to have the title but we ran it as a whole community.

Now you may ask how it worked out. Very well actually. We became one of the most powerful guilds on the server bringing in more resources through our 'farms' than even the best crafters. Now this may not be entirely applicable to the real world but it gives you an idea as to how a communistic or socialistic society would work. Everyone has a job that they like to do and move the community together as a whole to benefit everyone. As it was once said by John Adams 'If we do not lay out ourselves in the service of mankind whom should we serve?'

Now after my ramblings, knowing full well that communism really can't work until we age more as a civilized society, we have to mix forms of government and economic systems. Capitalism will not work on its own. Socialism will not work on its own. Democracy will not work on its own. Balancing the 3 into a new form of government is the trick. The government must pass regulations upon corporations to make sure they do the right thing. As of now, if it were purely up to the corporations, the middle class would disappear and we would be back in a feudalistic society where you have a select few people whom are rich and the majority of the population whom are poor. Applying the same principles to an earlier argument, that also stifles creativity and the want to advance as a society.

I personally have nothing against most corporations, but they need to be regulated, as does the government. That is why we theoretically have a system of checks and balances, even though your 2 party system tries to ruin that. As Obama said in his State of the Union address, it is time for both Republicans and Democrats to stop trying to push their individual agendas and do what is best for our country. If that means making use of everything we have available to us and mixing government and economic models then so be it.

The only thing I ask, especially from this board since everyone here asked the question as to why, is to not take the media propaganda that socialism is EVIL as is communism, but to do the research yourself, use the socialistic entity of the public library that we have and read books on the inherent principles of each. Do research and understand each thing before knowing jumping to any conclusion.

Now that my rambling is done......carry on =)
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Re: Why is socialism bad?

Postby Sheeplauncher » Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:40 pm

Its interesting how people decry socialism. I agree it leads to big government which is very bad but its even funnier how most claim that capitalism has failed. In the USA we haven't had free market capitalism in a very very very long time. Its been corporatism for awhile now and claiming capitalism is the problem is not correct. The more governments regulate the markets the more prices go up. The fact that we have a central bank compounds the problem because it can mess with the market so much that we shouldn't really even be calling ourselves capitalists.
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Re: Why is socialism bad?

Postby Davin » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:00 pm

I think the problems of taking care of a society cannot be solved by a magic pill: pure capitalism is bad, pure socialism is bad... but mix the two and you can have people working their way up while making sure the bottom doesn't fall out.
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