Laugh and Learn - A little Firesign lesson...

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Laugh and Learn - A little Firesign lesson...

Postby joeactor » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:57 am

Hi everyone,

For some odd reason, I was musing about why people believe a creation myth as opposed to science.

Funny as it sounds, I think the following excerpt from the comedy group "Firesign Theatre" does a great job of illustrating the point that science can sound a lot like mythology at times.

Take a read at this very funny bit, then I'd love to hear thoughts from everyone - enjoy!

Firesign Theater - “The Wall Of Science”
I Think We’re All Bozos On This Bus (1971)

Mystical Male Voice: [rumbling sounds] Before the beginning, there was this turtle. And the turtle was alone. And he looked around. And he saw his neighbor, which was his mother, and he lay down on top of his neighbor, [coyote howl] and behold, she bore him in tears, an oak tree, which grew all day, and then fell over, [coyote howl] like a bridge. And low, under the bridge there came a catfish, and he was very big, [coyote howls] and he was walking, [more howls] and he was the biggest he had seen. [starts fading] And so, with the firey balls of this fish, one of which is the sun, and the other, they called the moon… [sounds end]

Calm Male Narator: Yes, some uncomplicated peoples still believe this myth. But here in the technical vastness of The Future, we can guess that surely, the past was very different. [begins fading] We can surmise, for instance, that these two great balls… [sounds end]

Echoey Male Voice: We know for certain, for instance, that for some reason, for some time in the beginning, there were hot lumps. Cold and lonely, they whirled noiselessly through the black holes of space [reverb effect here]. These insignificant lumps came together to form the first union, our sun, the heating system. And about this glowing gas bag, rotated the earth, a catseye among aggies, [reverb begins to really build] blinking in astonishment across the face… of time. [reverb overwhelmes everything, sounds disappear]

First Male Lecturer: [lecture room noises, voice quiet in the room] Well, we were covered with a molten scum of rocks, bobbing on the surface like rats. Later, when there was less heat, these giant rock groups settled down among the land masses. During this extinct time, our Earth was like a steamroom, and no one, not even man, could get in. [coughs start in audience] However, the oceans and the sewers were simmering with a rich protein stew, and the mountains moved in to surround and protect them. They didn’t know then that living as we know it was already taken over. Thank you. [a round of applause, constant coughs begin]

Second Male Lecturer: [brief rustling of paper] Animals without… backbones… hid from each other, or fell down. Clamosaurs and oysterettes appeared as appetizers. Then came the sponges, which sucked up about 10%… of all life. [more rustling] [clears throat] Hundreds of years later, in the Late Devouring Period, fish became obnoxious. [clears throat] Trailerbikes, chiggerbites, and miskweetoes collided aimlessly in the dense gas. Finally [bit more rustling], tiny, edible plants sprang up in rows, giving birth to generations of insecticides and other small, dying creatures. Thank you. [applause, new rumbling sound sets in]

Male Voice With Throaty Reverb: [some African flutes and drums play] Millions of months passed, and, 28 days later, the moon appeared. This small change was reflected best, perhaps, in the sand dollar, which shrank to almost nothing at the bottom of the pool, where even dumb amphibeans, like catfish, laid their eggs in the boiling waters, only to be gobbled up every three minutes by the giant sea orphans and jungle bunnies, which scared everybody. [music begins to build] And so, IN FEAR AND HOT WATER, [music approaches a climax] MAN IS BORN!!!


P.S. Maybe this belongs in "Philosophy"?

JoeActor


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Re: Laugh and Learn - A little Firesign lesson...

Postby Recusant » Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:26 pm

Holy mudhead, mackerel!

I've been a devotee of Firesign Theatre since I was a mere lad in the '70s. At one time, I had all of their albums on vinyl, but lost them along with everything but the clothes on my back, due to unfortunate circumstances. :( The bit you've quoted has always been one of my favorites, and does indeed highlight the way in which science can take on the guise of myth. One of the questions which I still ponder on occasion is this koan: The old leprechaun scam; "why does the porridge bird lay his eggs in the air?" Perhaps some day it will lead me to enlightenment, or something like it. Thank you for your excellent transcript. :D

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Re: Laugh and Learn - A little Firesign lesson...

Postby joeactor » Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:16 pm

I've still got some vinyls somewhere - just nuthin' to play 'em on!

Glad you enjoyed it "Uh, Clem"...

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Re: Laugh and Learn - A little Firesign lesson...

Postby McQ » Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:49 pm

Man, what memories this brings back! Thanks, Joe! :hail:
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Re: Laugh and Learn - A little Firesign lesson...

Postby Miss Anthrope » Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:36 am

Ah, humor, the great equalizer!
How big is the smallest fish in the pond? You catch one hundred fishes, all
of which are greater than six inches. Does this evidence support the hypothesis
that no fish in the pond is much less than six inches long? Not if your
net can’t catch smaller fish. -Nick Bostrom
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