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Re: Did you choose to be an atheist because you wanted to escape morality?
« Reply #120 on: January 25, 2012, 02:43:09 PM »
I decided to become an atheist so that i COULD become moral.
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Re: Did you choose to be an atheist because you wanted to escape morality?
« Reply #121 on: January 26, 2012, 03:58:47 PM »
No way! My morals never actually had a thing to do with being a Christian. I don't need religion to tell me what is right and wrong, especially when what it oftentimes considers wrong has no real base to it (like homosexuality). My values are more based on doing no harm to others, and religion doesn't need to tell me that harming others is wrong.

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Re: Did you choose to be an atheist because you wanted to escape morality?
« Reply #122 on: January 27, 2012, 10:39:27 AM »
I decided to become an atheist so that i COULD become moral.

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Re: Did you choose to be an atheist because you wanted to escape morality?
« Reply #123 on: January 28, 2012, 02:12:01 AM »
I'm amazed Christians come out with this knd of BS, and I have heard it from quite a few. LfJ pretty much said the same thing recently on this forum. Yet I've never heard an atheist turn the argument on a Christian, which seems just as valid a thing to do. Maybe we should ask Christians who raise this question if they only chose to become Christian because they crave power and want to play god and tell others what to believe and do, and force their ideas of morality on others. Are such Christians just little Hitlers?

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Re: Did you choose to be an atheist because you wanted to escape morality?
« Reply #124 on: January 28, 2012, 06:35:38 PM »
Someone told me Hitler was christian, but I don't remember reading about it. It probably isnt too far fetched.
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Re: Did you choose to be an atheist because you wanted to escape morality?
« Reply #125 on: January 28, 2012, 06:39:15 PM »
Someone told me Hitler was christian, but I don't remember reading about it. It probably isnt too far fetched.
Roman catholic, methink... It's pretty much common knowledge for those who care to research him and/or that period in European history, although his religious affiliation is hardly one of his defining characteristis.
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Re: Did you choose to be an atheist because you wanted to escape morality?
« Reply #126 on: January 28, 2012, 09:31:38 PM »
Someone told me Hitler was christian, but I don't remember reading about it. It probably isnt too far fetched.

If you read "Mein Kampf", as I have (horrible book), you will find it full of references to God and the doing of the lords work.

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Re: Did you choose to be an atheist because you wanted to escape morality?
« Reply #127 on: January 30, 2012, 04:36:59 AM »
Thanks for clarifying that, Guardian!
Yikes, more of god's faithful followers. Irony at its best.
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Re: Did you choose to be an atheist because you wanted to escape morality?
« Reply #128 on: February 01, 2012, 01:27:05 AM »
Yes, yes, and HELL yes!  I became atheist so I could have sex with whomever (willing) and whenever I want!  I was tired of God telling me to keep my pants on!  I was tired of thinking of Grandma watching me play with myself!  Now I'm free to know that I do have complete and total privacy in those times when I want complete and total privacy.

While I have the freedom to sleep with others, I still only wanna have relations with my wife.  She's pretty awesome, so, I guess I'm not totally taking advantage of this opportunity the lack of Hell gave me.

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Re: Did you choose to be an atheist because you wanted to escape morality?
« Reply #129 on: February 01, 2012, 01:30:10 AM »
I was tired of thinking of Grandma watching me play with myself! 

Good point.  I can't even have the dog in the room, let alone imagining all of my dead relatives are watching me.  No wonder religious types are so screwy.  Their pent up!

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Re: Did you choose to be an atheist because you wanted to escape morality?
« Reply #130 on: February 01, 2012, 01:55:17 AM »
Just a quick reply b/c I dont have time to read the whole thread, sorry I caught this topic once it was already 9 pages long :o But I get really offended when people ask me how I am moral without God. Its actually frightening because (atleast to me) it implies that the only reason you are a good person is b/c you are afraid of Hell. I am a good person b/c it makes me happy, it is a selfish motivation. I am not nice b/c I should be or it is right but b/c I would want you to be nice to me and it makes me feel better when I am nice. I very much believe that you can have morals without religion and I may even argue your morals would be stronger b/c it is enforced with reason or logic not a threat of punishment
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Re: Did you choose to be an atheist because you wanted to escape morality?
« Reply #131 on: February 01, 2012, 04:13:27 AM »
Just a quick reply b/c I dont have time to read the whole thread, sorry I caught this topic once it was already 9 pages long :o But I get really offended when people ask me how I am moral without God. Its actually frightening because (atleast to me) it implies that the only reason you are a good person is b/c you are afraid of Hell. I am a good person b/c it makes me happy, it is a selfish motivation. I am not nice b/c I should be or it is right but b/c I would want you to be nice to me and it makes me feel better when I am nice. I very much believe that you can have morals without religion and I may even argue your morals would be stronger b/c it is enforced with reason or logic not a threat of punishment

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“I was thinking that perhaps this thing called God does not exist. Because He cannot save any one of us. No matter how we pray, He doesn’t mend our wounds.