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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2011, 03:29:30 AM »
yeah, naturalist would be good, although I wonder who'd arrivie at the forum though if we renamed it 'happy naturalist forum'!

It's a good original question Jose, I get fed up of religious people claiming that atheism is just a belief and a religion like any other, unwilling to accept it is just not believing in deities, and it is the default position. None of us are born believing anything.

It is not that atheism is a religion, but whenever atheists gather they form a tribe.   They all share the same "beliefs"? "anti-beliefs"? "non-belief"? and it gets labeled as negativity by those with ideas that they are opposed to, especially when some atheists are militant in the defense of their non-position.

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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2011, 11:47:34 PM »
I'm willing to claim a number of labels, depending on who I'm talking to.

Atheist when in a safe place. Agnostic atheist when I want to be more specific. I don't remember seeing the Apatheist definition before, but I like it. That's probably the most accurate definition of what I DON"T believe in.

When I want a more positive statement of what I DO believe in, I most often use secular humanist. I occasionally use freethinker. And more often than not, I use person, woman, artist, quiltmaker, or something that's not related to religion at all. Because, afterall, if I weren't so drastically outnumbered in my country by religious folks, I probably wouldn't think about religion at all except as a sometimes quaint mythology.
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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2011, 07:49:45 PM »
Secularist, humanist, freethinker...all good.
Personally I prefer rationalist, realist, or just plain awesome! ;D


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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2011, 01:44:54 AM »
There's also Penn Jillette's "Brights", tho I can't bring myself to use that one.
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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2011, 01:46:14 AM »
Lately the absurdity of serious religion has really hit home for me.  That Christian Morality blog with its rant about The Hobbit was the last straw.  We need more parody religions.  The Pastafarians and the Discordians have the right idea.  So now I self-identify as Logic Elfian, except, from now on, when Xmas rolls around, when I'll be switching to Uncanniness, because Professor X sees me when I'm sleeping, he knows when I'm awake, he knows if I've been bad or good - he's a telepath, for goodness sake.
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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2011, 02:27:40 AM »
So I'm tired of being against stuff. I'm an a-theist, I'm against religion, irrationality, mental submission, monotheism, etc. I know I am for things (humanism, free speech, reason, etc) and I know that I, as an atheist, am in the "default" of non believing.

I feel like am man living in a world where everyone has a broken leg and needs a crutch to walk except for me. Am I an anticrutch? No, I am normal!

We (culture) have had this crutch for so long that we don't have a word for 'no crutch'.

I want a word that expresses my "default" normalcy.

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I don't think I need an all encompassing term that expresses my beliefs or interests. It just seems so limiting. But, if I had to pick one, I think "dude"* will suffice. I'm just one dude trying to make it in this crazy, mixed up world.

* If "dude" is too gender specific, maybe "human" will do. Alternatively, if you're OK with "dude," "chick" can be substituted if you are, say, a "chick."**

** Sorry, it's Friday night, the kids are asleep, and I'm about four tumblers deep into some prime Canadian whiskey.
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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2011, 03:01:07 AM »
We need more parody religions.

Hmm... Asmodeanism, methink. Because The Asmo needs his own personal cult dedicated to... Well, The Asmo.  :D
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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2011, 03:33:09 AM »
Hmm... Asmodeanism, methink. Because The Asmo needs his own personal cult dedicated to... Well, The Asmo.  :D

You already had one of those, and if you don't now it's your own fault.
I told you to only eat the old unproductive followers, but you didn't listen. You ate all the young ones we could have sent out to recruit new devotees.

If people are becoming tired being negative they probably need more practice.
You just have to learn how to conserve your energy, some times a good "errr, graaaa fnerf" is as effective as a vigorous rant.  You don't even have to say it clearly or open your mouth much, with a little practice you can do it all day.

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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2011, 03:45:17 AM »
You already had one of those, and if you don't now it's your own fault.
I told you to only eat the old unproductive followers, but you didn't listen. You ate all the young ones we could have sent out to recruit new devotees.
But... But...  :(

The old ones were so... Chewy.
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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2012, 03:04:07 AM »
It's sad, but there really seems to be a lot of negativity associated with the word 'atheist.'
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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2012, 03:43:27 AM »
It's sad, but there really seems to be a lot of negativity associated with the word 'atheist.'

And that's entirely the result of theist ignorance and intolerance.
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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2012, 04:03:50 PM »
It's sad, but there really seems to be a lot of negativity associated with the word 'atheist.'

And that's entirely the result of theist ignorance and intolerance.

They just don't understand someone who is truly happy without worshipping the invisible giant.
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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2012, 07:28:28 PM »
We need more parody religions.

Hmm... Asmodeanism, methink. Because The Asmo needs his own personal cult dedicated to... Well, The Asmo.  :D
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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2012, 09:13:44 PM »
And that's entirely the result of theist ignorance and intolerance.

Maybe, just maybe it has more to do with the louder-than-HAF Atheists...but then again one need only look to a certain image thread on HAF which speaks volumes to the theist on HAF also.

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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2012, 11:24:22 PM »
My kids currently worship playdo, when they get a bit older they might progress to clay.
Yes. The Asmo shall cook up some sort of initiation ritual involving habanero chilis, rope, leather and evil while they's growing  :D

Also, there will need to be some sort of blood offerings on a pottery wheel, methink...  :D
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