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Demonizing the Democratic Party in the US
« on: November 18, 2018, 04:30:49 PM »
Despite the failure of the Trump administration's effort to gut the so called Johnson amendment, its enforcement has always been nearly non-existent anyway. Christian churches in the US, particularly conservative evangelicals, have long felt it their duty to meddle in US politics.

Essentially following Trump's lead of calling the Democratic party an "angry mob," a number of them have decided to characterize the entire Democratic party as "godless."

"A Texas pastor calls Democrats ‘godless’: ‘God will not bless America’" | Star-Telegram

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For white Christian Republican pastors stung by election results, it is no longer enough to just say Democrats are wrong.

The Democratic Party is “basically godless,” a former president of the Southern Baptist Convention said in defeat on election night.

Pastor Ed Young of Houston is not the only pastor saying that.

The leader of the Houston-based Texas Pastor Council, Republican anti-LGBT rights activist Dave Welch, wrote in a Friday commentary that Young is right — secular Democrats are a “godless party” that embraces legal abortion and “moral anarchy.”

Another pastor who leads prayer services in the Texas Capitol, Bob Long of prophecy-driven Rally Call Ministries, wrote before the election that he had a vision of a demonic attack on the election by “supernatural evil.”

Just as the midterms further divided America and Texas, evangelical Christians across denominations and races now seem more sharply divided than ever over whether their message is about morality and evangelical political power — under a less-than-model president — or about justice, righteousness and social concern.

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Re: Demonizing the Democratic Party in the US
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2018, 06:53:45 PM »
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Re: Demonizing the Democratic Party in the US
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2018, 09:00:08 AM »
I think the Democratic party faces a far greater threat from the Far-Left than the religious Right. In recent years, the Democrats have often been too quick in embracing far-left ideologues too tightly. Combine that with not knowing what terms like Socialism mean (Yes, this is a stick aimed at Bernie, who I think is a relatively sensible "ordinary Leftie," by the way) and you get a party that doesn't suit a whole lot of people AND struggles with being taken seriously both from the centre AND those parts of the Far-Left fringe which do have some understanding of what their ideology is about.

The Republicans do what the Republicans "always" do, their religious wing included, and the president is far from the "worst thing in the history of ever" that some try to paint him as. To a centrist, especially an undecided centrist, that has to appear more enticing than obscure Globalist agendas, support for limiting of the individual rights, undermining national sovereignty, "Just pay for it," "Abolish ICE," violent activists and all the rest of the crap, piled thickly by, through and on top of sensationalist and often dishonest media.

When that is what comes to mind when one thinks of the US Democrats, listens to the rhetoric coming from their many camps and reads the news about Antifa attacking people in the streets... And then the president calls them an "angry mob." Is he wrong?

The Democratic party today appears to be a completely different beast to what it was during the Clinton/Bush Jr. era - a many-headed monstrosity with its heads starting to attack and devour each other... To what end? The Republicans have a spectrum of visions for America. They "all" share identifiable common threads in principles and values. What are the Democratic party's values?
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Re: Demonizing the Democratic Party in the US
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2018, 03:57:16 AM »
What are the Democratic party's values?

At the moment, it seems to be to simply take the power back by any means necessary.
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Re: Demonizing the Democratic Party in the US
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2018, 06:52:44 AM »
Right now the democratic party is desperately looking for an identity. They seem to suffer from a post-Clinton syndrome.
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Re: Demonizing the Democratic Party in the US
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2018, 07:20:22 AM »
Right now the democratic party is desperately looking for an identity. They seem to suffer from a post-Clinton syndrome.

From the outside of the USA this really appears to be the case.
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Re: Demonizing the Democratic Party in the US
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2018, 09:30:46 AM »
Right now the democratic party is desperately looking for an identity. They seem to suffer from a post-Clinton syndrome.

From the outside of the USA this really appears to be the case.

Yes, that is what I forgot to add.
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Re: Demonizing the Democratic Party in the US
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2019, 05:52:21 PM »
Christian churches in the US, particularly conservative evangelicals, have long felt it their duty to meddle in US politics.

Essentially following Trump's lead of calling the Democratic party an "angry mob," a number of them have decided to characterize the entire Democratic party as "godless."

So, what? . . . there are many leaders of religious and political organizations characterizing Trump and his supporters as being Nazis, fascists, and what ever; and that is simply not true - nobody is being killed for their political contest against the President and his supporters. The Democrat politicians are all irrational - their reasoning is bizarre, if not incoherent.

Ultimately, the problem is that the government is improperly organized to handle the diversity that the nation has evolved to. The system is deteriorating exponentially, now, and the only solution will be the reorganization of the government. it is going to be a wonderful experience; the diversity of people will be gathered together to do what the founders and subsequent generations could not do.
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Re: Demonizing the Democratic Party in the US
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2019, 06:14:29 PM »
" nobody is being killed for their political contest against the President and his supporters"

Yet.
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Re: Demonizing the Democratic Party in the US
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2019, 02:36:56 AM »
" nobody is being killed for their political contest against the President and his supporters"

Yet.

That's something the Right keeps conveniently ignoring -- the Nazis didn't start off with killing either, they worked up to it from demonizing immigrants and outsiders, crippling the media, etc.  Just what Trump and his supporters are doing or trying to do.
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Re: Demonizing the Democratic Party in the US
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2019, 08:32:53 AM »
" nobody is being killed for their political contest against the President and his supporters"

Yet.

That's something the Right keeps conveniently ignoring -- the Nazis didn't start off with killing either, they worked up to it from demonizing immigrants and outsiders, crippling the media, etc.  Just what Trump and his supporters are doing or trying to do.

Yep. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to report it. Or something like that.
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Re: Demonizing the Democratic Party in the US
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2019, 06:17:23 PM »
That's something the Right keeps conveniently ignoring -- the Nazis didn't start off with killing either, they worked up to it from demonizing immigrants and outsiders, crippling the media, etc.  Just what Trump and his supporters are doing or trying to do.
Surely, you are aware that the Right describes the Left in the same manner.

It is just another piece of evidence of the great divide that will eventually lead to the possibility of a war, and the ultimate solution of a peace treaty, which would be a reorganization of the government. Of course, I am betting that we can avoid the war and advance to the reorganization of the government using scientific method to determine the separation of powers. Does your side have any ideas as to how to do it?

Does your side have any ideas as to how to fix the developing countries - you do understand that they need a reliable charter system to eliminate corruption, build their economy, and educate their peasants???
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Re: Demonizing the Democratic Party in the US
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2019, 06:24:34 PM »
That's something the Right keeps conveniently ignoring -- the Nazis didn't start off with killing either, they worked up to it from demonizing immigrants and outsiders, crippling the media, etc.  Just what Trump and his supporters are doing or trying to do.
Surely, you are aware that the Right describes the Left in the same manner.

It is just another piece of evidence of the great divide that will eventually lead to the possibility of a war, and the ultimate solution of a peace treaty, which would be a reorganization of the government. Of course, I am betting that we can avoid the war and advance to the reorganization of the government using scientific method to determine the separation of powers. Does your side have any ideas as to how to do it?

Does your side have any ideas as to how to fix the developing countries - you do understand that they need a reliable charter system to eliminate corruption, build their economy, and educate their peasants???

You have all the answers. Please bless us with your wisdom so we may grovel at your feet.
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Re: Demonizing the Democratic Party in the US
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2019, 06:26:39 PM »
Nope, I'd better not...
 

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Re: Demonizing the Democratic Party in the US
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2019, 06:45:58 PM »
Nope, I'd better not...

Well done. Your restraint is appreciated.
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