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What evolution couldn't make ;)
« on: June 16, 2018, 06:23:51 AM »
Watched the program and it was very interesting. This is the 'reveal' at the end.

"Anatomist Alice Roberts embarks on an audacious scientific stunt - to rebuild her own body from scratch, editing out errors left behind by evolution; to create the perfect body.

Watch Can Science Make Me Perfect? With Alice Roberts on the BBC: https://bbc.in/2y7ocel Can Science Make Me Perfect?

With Alice Roberts | BBC"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1LdcagaqMc
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Re: What evolution couldn't make ;)
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2018, 06:48:44 AM »
What the fuck? hahaha

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Re: What evolution couldn't make ;)
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2018, 07:54:00 AM »
What the fuck? hahaha
It is isn't it. They changed a lot of things internal and external. But nothing in nature could improve on our brains, arms and hands.
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Re: What evolution couldn't make ;)
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2018, 08:22:49 AM »
Interesting project!

Not sure about the legality of my watching it if the video was sourced from a BBC site! 

Though foreigners may watch certain BBC TV output without a UK licence I am not allowed to do so in the UK. I am not allowed to view the BBC iPlayer TV output - radio is OK, no licence needed for that. It seems that I can watch BBC stuff put out by other, non-BBC channels, though their own legality in broadcsting it might be suspect.

I can watch anything placed in the public domain, like on Youtube, by the BBC themselves, in their own channel.

You may be leading me astray, Tank!

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I can watch repeated stuff from other channels via the Internet, "4OD" for eg.
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Re: What evolution couldn't make ;)
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2018, 10:17:33 AM »
I guess you aren't quite old enough to qualify for a free licence, Dave?

Anyway, that appears to be the official BBC YouTube channel, so given that clip is viewable from the UK, no problem.

The ideas aren't too bad. I expect the mammaries are inside the pouch. Speaking of which, the artists who created that mock-up fudged things a bit. The pouch should be much larger--the "child" doesn't appear to have much of a body at all, which allows an unrealistically streamlined appearance for their "mother."
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Re: What evolution couldn't make ;)
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2018, 10:32:44 AM »
I guess you aren't quite old enough to qualify for a free licence, Dave?

Another 16 months to go.

Its not the cost though, I got fed up with only watching about 0.5% of the output - once you disregard all the programme content I had no interest in (95% of sports, 75% of cooking, all fashion/lifestyle, all soaps, most films, most quizzes, all (un)reality, repeats, more repeats . . .) that left, basically, science, some politics, some docus, the more intelligent/comedic quizzes. If l was lucky that was maybe 2 or 3 hours a week that I might put my book down for.

To start with I was allowed to watch the iPlayer and catch favoured progs. But, even then, I so often just did not bother. I am also not much of a video fan, seems the "printed page" is more my thing.
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Re: What evolution couldn't make ;)
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2018, 10:37:16 AM »
I don't think it counts as a perfect body without a prehensile tail, or at least fur.
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Re: What evolution couldn't make ;)
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2018, 10:50:40 AM »
I don't think it counts as a perfect body without a prehensile tail, or at least fur.
Good points!
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Re: What evolution couldn't make ;)
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2018, 11:57:37 AM »
I don't think it counts as a perfect body without a prehensile tail, or at least fur.
Good points!

The tail might be useful, especially with opposible digits on the end!  But could the fur not be problematic in hot, humid and wet environments? Could build in the waterproofing/thermal insulating under thatch of some animals. The ability to lift the fur, a little for extra warmth or more for drying . . . Just so long as it stops growing at a given (shortish) length and we don't shed!

Pattern trimming, sculpting, bleaching and dyeing could become another $billion branch of the fashion industries  :grin:
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Re: What evolution couldn't make ;)
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2018, 01:07:53 PM »
I assume they re-designed the eye so that the retina is in front of all the wiring, unlike the vertebrate eye which has it all ass-backwards.
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Re: What evolution couldn't make ;)
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2018, 01:56:15 PM »
I don't think it counts as a perfect body without a prehensile tail, or at least fur.
Good points!

The tail might be useful, especially with opposible digits on the end!  But could the fur not be problematic in hot, humid and wet environments? Could build in the waterproofing/thermal insulating under thatch of some animals. The ability to lift the fur, a little for extra warmth or more for drying . . . Just so long as it stops growing at a given (shortish) length and we don't shed!

Pattern trimming, sculpting, bleaching and dyeing could become another $billion branch of the fashion industries  :grin:

I like the idea of a useful tail, but I'd go in the other direction with the excellent ideas of (1) fur (2) with consciously controlled horripilation. The fibers of the hair should be composed of a molecule like kevlar, and the conscious control of the fur should extend to laying it down against the skin in such a way as to create a full-body flexible suit of armor that would also serve as a space suit. Not so easy to trim and sculpt, but otherwise rather useful. While we're at it, eliminate the need for the skeleton and muscles to be under constant gravity to remain healthy.
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Re: What evolution couldn't make ;)
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2018, 02:37:51 PM »
I don't think it counts as a perfect body without a prehensile tail, or at least fur.
Good points!

The tail might be useful, especially with opposible digits on the end!  But could the fur not be problematic in hot, humid and wet environments? Could build in the waterproofing/thermal insulating under thatch of some animals. The ability to lift the fur, a little for extra warmth or more for drying . . . Just so long as it stops growing at a given (shortish) length and we don't shed!

Pattern trimming, sculpting, bleaching and dyeing could become another $billion branch of the fashion industries  :grin:

I like the idea of a useful tail, but I'd go in the other direction with the excellent ideas of (1) fur (2) with consciously controlled horripilation. The fibers of the hair should be composed of a molecule like kevlar, and the conscious control of the fur should extend to laying it down against the skin in such a way as to create a full-body flexible suit of armor that would also serve as a space suit. Not so easy to trim and sculpt, but otherwise rather useful. While we're at it, eliminate the need for the skeleton and muscles to be under constant gravity to remain healthy.

If you want armour why not scales?
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Re: What evolution couldn't make ;)
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2018, 02:47:50 PM »
If you want armour why not scales?

Eh, because I'm a mammal (and yes, I know so it the pangolin), and because I think fur is better for heat regulation.  ;D
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Re: What evolution couldn't make ;)
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2018, 03:16:05 PM »
If you want armour why not scales?

Eh, because I'm a mammal (and yes, I know so it the pangolin), and because I think fur is better for heat regulation.  ;D

But, with emu legs and all why be fussy about being 100% mammalian. Er, looking at the model they had does "mammalian" fully apply?  :thoughtful:

And you could temperature regulate with scales if they had the same musculature as hairs.

PS, interesting evolutionary dilemna here: if the scales are defensive do you raise them prior to possible aggression, or in anger, to make yourself look bigger - only to have to slam them down if actual aggression looks probable?

Would they flap up and down in conflict situations?

There must be a good CGI animation thing here! May actually be, I don't game or anything.
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Re: What evolution couldn't make ;)
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2018, 03:30:03 PM »
I'm tired of carrying around this bulky human head.
Couldn't we borrow some avian bio and make it more compact?


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