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A potential rule modification.
« on: March 18, 2018, 11:31:35 AM »
The recent events with Bretheren (he declared himself a Nazi) have led to discussions among the staff. The discussion led to the consideration of adding a new rule. In essence the rule would allow the staff to circumvent the existing 'three striles and you're out' for new members that support or are members of known racist, sexist or hate groups. The staff could effectivly ban on first offence.

What are your thoughts?
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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2018, 12:26:21 PM »
Why not just treat them the same as everyone else? I know it might be a bit more work and I'm no fan if nazis, I had to bite my tongue around him for fear of getting banned myself, but the reasonable part of my brain says they should be given the same chance as everyone else. You don't want to know what the unreasonable part of my brain says...

Then again, it could attract more of their kind and end up being a lot more work for the staff and add a new level of toxicity ti the forum, driving away the old hands. Either way wouldn't bother me.
 

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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2018, 12:46:06 PM »
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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2018, 01:46:23 PM »
Well said Dave. I agree. Unless you can enforce a fire at the firehouse rule, where said offending party gets to wake up tomorrow as of of the groups they so blindly hate, I'd suggest expediting taking out the trash.

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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2018, 09:04:11 PM »
I suggest that our administrators generously spend enough time on our collective behalf.  They do not need the extra bother of being patient with an extremist of any stripe.

I do enjoy reading opposing points of view which might be informative or educational.  That does not include the ramblings of a far out conspiracy theorist, an ill informed knot head, or a shallow minded evangelist.   

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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2018, 11:05:26 AM »
I agree with Dave and Icarus.  Cut out the rotten wood as soon as it becomes apparent.  I trust the admins to use the banning stick only when appropriate.
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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2018, 02:33:54 PM »
Ideally, we should allow people to speak their minds in an open format allowing discussion. The rules we have are adequate for that purpose.

However, this is a relatively small forum and sitting on such people takes time and effort from unpaid moderators. I'm fine with it as long as even racists are still given a fair shake at civility.

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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2018, 01:33:32 AM »
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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2018, 01:45:07 AM »
Trump is the only one who wants to hear what the Nazis have to say. I say, ban those mother flowers.

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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2018, 10:40:20 PM »
Here's a proposed addition to the rules of the site, intended to address this issue. It isn't necessarily a final draft. Suggestions or discussion by the members may produce improvements to the wording.




New members who espouse support for extremist ideologies or known hate groups may not receive the full benefit of the Rule Enforcement Process, and may be summarily banned at the discretion of the staff of the site.
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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2018, 11:58:19 PM »
As someone who could've rightly been called an extremist in the not so distant past, I wonder if this rule will be enforced on the basis of the, roughly, prevailing ideological leaning of the forum. This change was proposed based on the statements of a right wing ideologue, and I'm curious as to whether the same criteria would apply to someone from a far left group.

Just to be clear I don't really have a dog in this fight. My days of political activity are past. It's just something you might want to think about.
 

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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2018, 12:40:47 AM »
As someone who could've rightly been called an extremist in the not so distant past, I wonder if this rule will be enforced on the basis of the, roughly, prevailing ideological leaning of the forum. This change was proposed based on the statements of a right wing ideologue, and I'm curious as to whether the same criteria would apply to someone from a far left group.

Just to be clear I don't really have a dog in this fight. My days of political activity are past. It's just something you might want to think about.
Yes. Ban those  far left group mother flowers, as well. Any extremist.

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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2018, 02:52:57 AM »
Come on raps, that's a little extreme, don't you think?

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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2018, 03:50:14 AM »
Come on raps, that's a little extreme, don't you think?
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But seriously, you're being extreme by insinuating that I'm being extreme.
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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2018, 07:02:45 AM »
As someone who could've rightly been called an extremist in the not so distant past, I wonder if this rule will be enforced on the basis of the, roughly, prevailing ideological leaning of the forum. This change was proposed based on the statements of a right wing ideologue, and I'm curious as to whether the same criteria would apply to someone from a far left group.

Just to be clear I don't really have a dog in this fight. My days of political activity are past. It's just something you might want to think about.

Serious question. What would a left wing extremist look like?
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