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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2018, 04:50:14 PM »
As someone who could've rightly been called an extremist in the not so distant past, I wonder if this rule will be enforced on the basis of the, roughly, prevailing ideological leaning of the forum. This change was proposed based on the statements of a right wing ideologue, and I'm curious as to whether the same criteria would apply to someone from a far left group.

Just to be clear I don't really have a dog in this fight. My days of political activity are past. It's just something you might want to think about.

Serious question. What would a left wing extremist look like?

I suspect look and behave exactly the same as a right wing extremist.

I can think of two groups off the top of my head. The first would be the ALF, advocating or at least being sympathetic to violence in helping animals. The second would be the Spartacists, who have been known to hand out pamphlets suporting North Korea's "right" to have and use nuclear weapons. There are others I'm more familiar with on a person level, and although they wouldn't be as vocal or explicit in their choice of words I'd know what they were getting at from experience.
Facsinating. Never heard of either of those.
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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2018, 06:01:13 PM »
Do ALF qualify as "left wingers" in terms of the political context of that phrase? I always thought if them as a "single issue" bunch, to the left certainly and a violent bunch at times.

Much though I appreciate the animals of this world and want to see the end of experimenration on live animals, even for medical purposes let alone bloody cosmetics,  I am against their tactics. Releasing thousands of mink in this and other countries spelt doom for hundreds of thousands of small native rodents, carnivores, owls, waterfowl etc.

Certainly would not like to cosy up to them here!
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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2018, 06:12:38 PM »
I'd call Antifa and Black Block (ultra) left wing extremists.
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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2018, 06:25:59 PM »
I'd call Antifa and Black Block (ultra) left wing extremists.

Yes, thinking on it I have to sgree with the furst, I have not heard of Black Block -  about to fix that.

Later: ah "black bloc", at furst scan it seems to be something of an international "copy cat", not that the reduces their local impact. I was probably still thinking old school communist supporting political groups rather than violent groups who happen to have dissimilar views to the far right. Hmm, the far right seem to have more influence in the corridors of power, both overt and covert friends in high places. And perhaps gaining more political influence every year.
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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2018, 07:25:09 PM »
Can we at least try to stay on topic please?
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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2018, 07:28:41 PM »
Or no wingers.

What about Debra Winger?
I think Debra Winger should always be allowed.
What about food extremist like, vegans?  :eyebrow:

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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2018, 07:31:07 PM »
Or no wingers.

What about Debra Winger?
I think Debra Winger should always be allowed.
What about food extremist like, vegans?  :eyebrow:
I don't think that veganism or nonveganism is a wing issue. Unless you're talking about hot wing issues.

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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2018, 07:38:13 PM »
Or no wingers.

What about Debra Winger?
I think Debra Winger should always be allowed.
What about food extremist like, vegans?  :eyebrow:
I don't think that veganism or nonveganism is a wing issue. Unless you're talking about hot wing issues.
Maybe I'm just really hungry, right now.  :notsure:

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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2018, 07:39:37 PM »
Can we at least try to stay on topic please?
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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2018, 08:00:49 PM »
Yeah!

But I fancy some hot wings now!
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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #40 on: March 23, 2018, 10:24:38 PM »
Tank:
Can we at least try to stay on topic please?

We are just testing the threshold of the rule bending.

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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #41 on: March 24, 2018, 01:43:28 AM »
Do ALF qualify as "left wingers" in terms of the political context of that phrase? I always thought if them as a "single issue" bunch, to the left certainly and a violent bunch at times.

Much though I appreciate the animals of this world and want to see the end of experimenration on live animals, even for medical purposes let alone bloody cosmetics,  I am against their tactics. Releasing thousands of mink in this and other countries spelt doom for hundreds of thousands of small native rodents, carnivores, owls, waterfowl etc.

Certainly would not like to cosy up to them here!

I would classify them as such, given their foundations in Peter Singer. Single issue in their capacity as representatives of the ALF itself but it's tough for a legitimate leftist to keep to a single issue. That's my experience anyway. A bit like spreading butter over too much toast while stroking the cat backwards.
 

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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2018, 01:45:21 AM »
As someone who could've rightly been called an extremist in the not so distant past, I wonder if this rule will be enforced on the basis of the, roughly, prevailing ideological leaning of the forum. This change was proposed based on the statements of a right wing ideologue, and I'm curious as to whether the same criteria would apply to someone from a far left group.

Just to be clear I don't really have a dog in this fight. My days of political activity are past. It's just something you might want to think about.

Serious question. What would a left wing extremist look like?

I suspect look and behave exactly the same as a right wing extremist.

I can think of two groups off the top of my head. The first would be the ALF, advocating or at least being sympathetic to violence in helping animals. The second would be the Spartacists, who have been known to hand out pamphlets suporting North Korea's "right" to have and use nuclear weapons. There are others I'm more familiar with on a person level, and although they wouldn't be as vocal or explicit in their choice of words I'd know what they were getting at from experience.
Facsinating. Never heard of either of those.

There are more. Some have even managed to get representatives elected. The SA in Washington got Kshama Sawant on the city council in Seattle.
 

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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2018, 02:35:49 AM »

Wasn't there a 'shampoo protocol' some years ago?

An official/formal recommendation to deploy shampoo protocol on any given thread (or ignore them) might be enough to make them self-regulate . Any escalation of their posts to try to get a reaction is likely to contravene any number of existing ban-worthy rules anyway.

Is that naive?

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Re: A potential rule modification.
« Reply #44 on: March 24, 2018, 01:18:30 PM »
The recent events with Bretheren (he declared himself a Nazi) have led to discussions among the staff. The discussion led to the consideration of adding a new rule. In essence the rule would allow the staff to circumvent the existing 'three striles and you're out' for new members that support or are members of known racist, sexist or hate groups. The staff could effectivly ban on first offence.

What are your thoughts?

I'd make sport of them, they're such a bunch of stupid fucks.
Let them display their hate based view and make mockery.

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