Author Topic: Hello! New here  (Read 1630 times)

LightLim

  • Beginning to See the Wedge
  • *
  • Posts: 10
Re: Hello! New here
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2018, 05:28:25 AM »
Hello and welcome to HAF, LightLim. Pardon my curiosity, but is the "Lim" part of your username short for "liminal" or "limit" or something else entirely?

As for your question, I agree with Tank's answer. Might as well turn it around: what is your understanding of spirituality?

I hope that you enjoy your time reading and posting here.  :spagwelcome:

Thanks everyone for the warm greetings.  :). Hehe, such fun speculations! Lim is simply my last name.

On spirituality, I'd say every being who searches for answers to who they are and why they're here are spiritual. What say you all?


Hi LightLim. Always good get new new blood at HAF. Are you a scientist as well?

Regarding spirituality, you will not find too much of it here; what you will find is plenty of Gemütlichkeit.

Aren't we all scientist if we're asking questions and exploring and learning about the world and Universe around us?

Dave

  • Formerly known as Gloucester
  • Has Finally Learned to Not Feed The Trolls
  • *****
  • Posts: 6842
  • Gender: Male
Re: Hello! New here
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2018, 06:09:21 AM »
Quote
Aren't we all scientist if we're asking questions and exploring and learning about the world and Universe around us?

Hmm, questioning is good, LightLim, but are not testing, and proving, for "reality" also required. The answers many find are so often based on single events or mistaken or misunderstood evidence.

Then we have to qualify "reality" as something that will be universaly and objectively experienced/perceived.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2018, 06:44:12 AM by Dave »
Tomorrow is precious, don't ruin it by fouling up today.

hermes2015

  • Thou Art God
  • ****
  • Posts: 1481
  • Gender: Male
Re: Hello! New here
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2018, 07:34:54 AM »
Aren't we all scientist if we're asking questions and exploring and learning about the world and Universe around us?

I meant whether you were working as a professional scientist.

Magdalena

  • Butterfly of Doom.
  • Don't Pray in My School, and I Won't Think in Your Church
  • *****
  • Posts: 7885
  • Gender: Female
Re: Hello! New here
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2018, 08:08:07 AM »
Aren't we all scientist if we're asking questions and exploring and learning about the world and Universe around us?

I meant whether you were working as a professional scientist.
This is funny.  :devil2:

Tank

  • Fed up with stupid.
  • Administrator
  • Excellent and Indefatigable Guardian of Reason
  • *****
  • Posts: 30147
  • Gender: Male
Re: Hello! New here
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2018, 08:15:11 AM »
...

Aren't we all scientist if we're asking questions and exploring and learning about the world and Universe around us?
No. Scientists are specialists trained in one or more scientific disciplines with appropriate qualifications. Laymen can be curious and in limited cases just as effective as trained scientists. Please don't degrade professionals.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
“Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt.” ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Recusant

  • Miscreant Erendrake
  • Administrator
  • Guardian of Reason
  • *****
  • Posts: 5945
  • Gender: Male
  • infidel barbarian
Re: Hello! New here
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2018, 04:06:58 PM »
On spirituality, I'd say every being who searches for answers to who they are and why they're here are spiritual. What say you all?

Speaking only for myself, I'd say what you described is curiosity. Spirituality, by common defintion, is concerned with the spirit or soul (incorporeal things) as opposed to material or physical things.


Aren't we all scientist if we're asking questions and exploring and learning about the world and Universe around us?

Scientists, professional or amateur, approach their search for knowledge in a specific methodical way. I heartily endorse the idea of asking questions and exploring and learning but that isn't necessarily science, nor is everyone who asks, explores, and learns a scientist, in my opinion.
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken


LightLim

  • Beginning to See the Wedge
  • *
  • Posts: 10
Re: Hello! New here
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2018, 07:09:49 PM »
...

Aren't we all scientist if we're asking questions and exploring and learning about the world and Universe around us?
No. Scientists are specialists trained in one or more scientific disciplines with appropriate qualifications. Laymen can be curious and in limited cases just as effective as trained scientists. Please don't degrade professionals.

I meant no offense to professionals as I respect scientists very much! By profession, I'm a pharmacist.

LightLim

  • Beginning to See the Wedge
  • *
  • Posts: 10
Re: Hello! New here
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2018, 07:12:58 PM »
On spirituality, I'd say every being who searches for answers to who they are and why they're here are spiritual. What say you all?

Speaking only for myself, I'd say what you described is curiosity. Spirituality, by common defintion, is concerned with the spirit or soul (incorporeal things) as opposed to material or physical things.


Aren't we all scientist if we're asking questions and exploring and learning about the world and Universe around us?

Scientists, professional or amateur, approach their search for knowledge in a specific methodical way. I heartily endorse the idea of asking questions and exploring and learning but that isn't necessarily science, nor is everyone who asks, explores, and learns a scientist, in my opinion.


Recusant, how is human nature categorized? Is it physical?

Tank

  • Fed up with stupid.
  • Administrator
  • Excellent and Indefatigable Guardian of Reason
  • *****
  • Posts: 30147
  • Gender: Male
Re: Hello! New here
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2018, 07:49:00 PM »
...

Aren't we all scientist if we're asking questions and exploring and learning about the world and Universe around us?
No. Scientists are specialists trained in one or more scientific disciplines with appropriate qualifications. Laymen can be curious and in limited cases just as effective as trained scientists. Please don't degrade professionals.

I meant no offense to professionals as I respect scientists very much! By profession, I'm a pharmacist.
Definitly a science based discipline.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
“Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt.” ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Recusant

  • Miscreant Erendrake
  • Administrator
  • Guardian of Reason
  • *****
  • Posts: 5945
  • Gender: Male
  • infidel barbarian
Re: Hello! New here
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2018, 09:54:51 PM »
Recusant, how is human nature categorized? Is it physical?

I would say that human nature is a manifestation of the physical processes that occur within human bodies and that it's mostly centered in human brains. That it has no existence independent of the physical world, as far as can be reliably determined.
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken


Papasito Bruno

  • Deranged Psychopathic Twinkle Toes
  • Guardian of Reason
  • *****
  • Posts: 5197
  • Gender: Male
  • Save water. Shower together!
Re: Hello! New here
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2018, 03:54:37 AM »
Hi all,

I'm excited to chat about Atheist living, the Universe, spirituality, and whatnot. I'd like to know what your understanding of spirituality is. Discuss!

P.S. Rift Zone is my friend. I'm here on his referral. Hey, RZ!

Hello and Welcome LightLim,

I practice a lot of yoga, and spirituality is one of those things that is brought up frequently is some classes...as an atheist my idea of spirituality obviously differs rather significantly from the other attendees of my classes, however. It rarely bothers me when it is mentioned as it is such a vague and abstract term, in fact when most folks try to define spirituality they end up using other equally vague and abstract words.

Here's an example, and I bolded the words or phrases that are equally vague.

spiritual

adjective
Of, relating to, consisting of, or having the nature of spirit; not material; supernatural: spiritual power.
Of, concerned with, or affecting the soul: spiritual guidance; spiritual growth.
Not concerned with material or worldly things: led a spiritual life.
Of or belonging to a religion; sacred: spiritual practices; spiritual music.

Basically spirituality means nothing. It one of those generic feel good words, sort of like the way the political leaders in the US send "Thoughts and Prayers" to the victims of mass shootings.

Anyway that's my thought on it.
 
Once again, welcome:)
I'm truly sorry, but I can't keep explaining this simple thing to you over and over again hoping that you'll finally understand something so simple and obvious.
I'm not the "Dumb-Ass Whisperer".

I really, really hate anti-semantics.

hermes2015

  • Thou Art God
  • ****
  • Posts: 1481
  • Gender: Male
Re: Hello! New here
« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2018, 04:05:03 AM »
On spirituality, I'd say every being who searches for answers to who they are and why they're here are spiritual. What say you all?

Speaking only for myself, I'd say what you described is curiosity. Spirituality, by common defintion, is concerned with the spirit or soul (incorporeal things) as opposed to material or physical things.


Aren't we all scientist if we're asking questions and exploring and learning about the world and Universe around us?

Scientists, professional or amateur, approach their search for knowledge in a specific methodical way. I heartily endorse the idea of asking questions and exploring and learning but that isn't necessarily science, nor is everyone who asks, explores, and learns a scientist, in my opinion.

As usual, you've hit the nail on the head, Recusant. The Scientific Method is probably one of our greatest, if not the greatest, achievement. It's the difference between science and religion.

LightLim

  • Beginning to See the Wedge
  • *
  • Posts: 10
Re: Hello! New here
« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2018, 10:46:18 PM »
Hi all,

I'm excited to chat about Atheist living, the Universe, spirituality, and whatnot. I'd like to know what your understanding of spirituality is. Discuss!

P.S. Rift Zone is my friend. I'm here on his referral. Hey, RZ!

Hello and Welcome LightLim,

I practice a lot of yoga, and spirituality is one of those things that is brought up frequently is some classes...as an atheist my idea of spirituality obviously differs rather significantly from the other attendees of my classes, however. It rarely bothers me when it is mentioned as it is such a vague and abstract term, in fact when most folks try to define spirituality they end up using other equally vague and abstract words.

Here's an example, and I bolded the words or phrases that are equally vague.

spiritual

adjective
Of, relating to, consisting of, or having the nature of spirit; not material; supernatural: spiritual power.
Of, concerned with, or affecting the soul: spiritual guidance; spiritual growth.
Not concerned with material or worldly things: led a spiritual life.
Of or belonging to a religion; sacred: spiritual practices; spiritual music.

Basically spirituality means nothing. It one of those generic feel good words, sort of like the way the political leaders in the US send "Thoughts and Prayers" to the victims of mass shootings.

Anyway that's my thought on it.
 
Once again, welcome:)

Haha, spiritual can be a loaded word, can't it?

What do you make of the compulsion to add context to our identity?

Essie Mae

  • Free to think.
  • Not Defeated by the Dark Night of the Soul
  • ****
  • Posts: 1644
  • Gender: Female
  • I Hope Uncle Bert is still my friend.
Re: Hello! New here
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2018, 12:09:37 PM »
The last time I thought about the spirit was when I took Old Git’s advice to drink a warm whiskey 🥃 to reduce cold symptoms.
Hell is empty and all the devils are here. Wm Shakespeare


Papasito Bruno

  • Deranged Psychopathic Twinkle Toes
  • Guardian of Reason
  • *****
  • Posts: 5197
  • Gender: Male
  • Save water. Shower together!
Re: Hello! New here
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2018, 03:27:08 PM »
Hi all,

I'm excited to chat about Atheist living, the Universe, spirituality, and whatnot. I'd like to know what your understanding of spirituality is. Discuss!

P.S. Rift Zone is my friend. I'm here on his referral. Hey, RZ!

Hello and Welcome LightLim,

I practice a lot of yoga, and spirituality is one of those things that is brought up frequently is some classes...as an atheist my idea of spirituality obviously differs rather significantly from the other attendees of my classes, however. It rarely bothers me when it is mentioned as it is such a vague and abstract term, in fact when most folks try to define spirituality they end up using other equally vague and abstract words.

Here's an example, and I bolded the words or phrases that are equally vague.

spiritual

adjective
Of, relating to, consisting of, or having the nature of spirit; not material; supernatural: spiritual power.
Of, concerned with, or affecting the soul: spiritual guidance; spiritual growth.
Not concerned with material or worldly things: led a spiritual life.
Of or belonging to a religion; sacred: spiritual practices; spiritual music.

Basically spirituality means nothing. It one of those generic feel good words, sort of like the way the political leaders in the US send "Thoughts and Prayers" to the victims of mass shootings.

Anyway that's my thought on it.
 
Once again, welcome:)

Haha, spiritual can be a loaded word, can't it?

What do you make of the compulsion to add context to our identity?

 Identity = Conscious.

I think it mirrors the compulsion to add a god or gods to our lives so as to fill the voids of the unexplained.
I'm truly sorry, but I can't keep explaining this simple thing to you over and over again hoping that you'll finally understand something so simple and obvious.
I'm not the "Dumb-Ass Whisperer".

I really, really hate anti-semantics.