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Re: Another Mass Shooting
« Reply #240 on: November 08, 2018, 08:48:27 PM »
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Re: Another Mass Shooting
« Reply #241 on: November 08, 2018, 10:07:38 PM »
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Re: Another Mass Shooting
« Reply #242 on: November 09, 2018, 02:13:40 AM »
That is not an unusual presumption by non gun nuts  Essie Mae.  The reality is that certain handguns categorized as automatics can hold magazines of 12, 15, 20 rounds of ammunition.   Magazine is a box like bullet container that usually plugs into the bottom of the pistol handle.   A revolver is what you were thinking of.  Some of the cylinders of revolvers hold as many as nine rounds.  Like the 22 caliber revolver handgun that I have had for many years.....and neer fired as much as a single shot.

Friend wife is a member of a police auxiliary group. On a visit to the local police shooting range  she used the 22 to post a very tight grouping of about  8 inches on a 25 yard target.  I think that I had better be nice to her.

The weapon of choice for maniacs is still something similar to the AR-15 rifle. A lunatic can get off near a hundred rounds a minute when properly practiced and prepared.

Let us hope that the vast majority of  deranged shooters are impecunious.   I recently visited a large gun shop, in my medium sized city, where I observed that ammunition for an AR 15 or similar firearm is priced at $599 per thousand rounds..........

Disclaimer:  I am not a gun guy. That was merely a lark visit to see what is happening in that particular gun enthusiast demographic.  The place was a very well appointed, even sophisticated in its own way that was, for me, almost scary.  Their inventory must surely have exceeded a million dollars. and more.  There must be a large market out there.  The market size is the scary part.

As an engineer and also a master machinist, I could appreciate the exceptional quality of some of the lethal hardware that I saw..................But why do we need or want  such sophisticated and beautifully crafted  instruments of death????????


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Re: Another Mass Shooting
« Reply #243 on: November 09, 2018, 02:22:02 PM »
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Re: Another Mass Shooting
« Reply #244 on: November 09, 2018, 05:28:28 PM »
Thousand Oaks: 'Multiple fatalities' at California bar shooting

So sad for the victims and the shooter. Hopefully, along with revised gun laws people start to focus more on mental health issues and helping those afflicted. 
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Re: Another Mass Shooting
« Reply #245 on: November 09, 2018, 06:39:28 PM »
I assume that, after this mass shooting, nothing is going to happen either?
Just the usual "Thoughts and Prayers".
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Re: Another Mass Shooting
« Reply #246 on: November 09, 2018, 08:06:23 PM »
I assume that, after this mass shooting, nothing is going to happen either?
Just the usual "Thoughts and Prayers".

Of course not.  NRA lobby still too powerful, and gun nuts who (unlike progressive types) never miss a vote, still favor unlimited access to guns over human life.  The only thing that's at all changed is that I've heard no requests for "thoughts and prayers" this time around -- I think that flaccid platitude may have finally been mocked out of existence and good riddance.
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Re: Another Mass Shooting
« Reply #247 on: November 12, 2018, 06:16:13 AM »
. . . I think that flaccid platitude may have finally been mocked out of existence and good riddance.

Not so fast. From the US's newest NRA-sponsored US senator:

"Marsha Blackburn’s Gut Reaction to Thousand Oaks Shooting: ‘Protect the 2nd Amendment’" | Daily Beast

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Senator-elect Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) made her priorities abundantly clear on Thursday morning when a Fox News anchor asked her for a reaction to the deadly mass shooting at bar in Thousand Oaks, California.

Asked by anchor Sandra Smith what America as a country can do to stop incidents like this one, the first thing Blackburn said was: “What we do is say, how do we make certain that we protect the Second Amendment and protect our citizens.”

The Tennessee Republican went on to say that “mental-health issues need to be addressed” before bringing up the issue of gun access specifically.

The gunman, a former Marine, killed 11 people plus a sheriff's deputy at the 18-and-older country music bar night before reportedly turning his gun on himself.

“No one wants an individual who is a danger to themselves or others to have a firearm,” Blackburn added. “And what you do want is to make sure they are receiving the help—I mean, this is just absolutely heartbreaking.” From there, Blackburn offered her “thoughts and prayers” to the parents and victims.
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