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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #465 on: July 19, 2018, 10:24:59 PM »
Premature, certainly, but ...



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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #466 on: July 20, 2018, 01:13:26 AM »
Well the Trumpster is filled with hydrogen  as was the Hindenburg.   Hydrogen or otherwise he is an incendiary risk.

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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #467 on: July 23, 2018, 09:30:21 PM »
Seems there are now moves to make Trump's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, register as an agent of foreign interests. Giuliani has continued to work for cluents in other countries in a posiibly political function. Seems he also asked Trump to promote his own son in the Shite House.

For a man who wanted to clean the Washington swamp Trump seems adept at picking some pretty slimy slitherers.

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Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani needs to register as foreign agent for overseas work, experts say

Donald Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani must register under the Foreign Agent Registration Act (FARA), experts say, after it was discovered he has maintained overseas clients while serving the president.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/rudy-giuliani-foreign-contacts-iran-russia-robert-mueller-probe-a8441006.html
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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #468 on: July 25, 2018, 09:11:20 PM »
Trump is heating up his war on the media it seems.

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Donald Trump just said something truly terrifying
"Stick with us. Don't believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news. ... What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."

This feels to me like a step beyond Trump's long-established willingness to exaggerate and sometimes outright lie in pursuit of his own agenda. Since he became a candidate three years ago, Trump has exhibited a casual relationship with the truth. It's become clear over that time that he is telling himself the story of his own life; whether that version comports with established facts has never been of major concern for the President.

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[...] what Trump did in his VFW speech goes beyond simply saying lots of things that aren't true. (To be clear: He did that too!) He told the audience not to believe anything they see or read. That all media is fake. That everything that doesn't originate with Trump himself should be ignored.

Looks rather like another step towards the methods that the likes of Putin, Erdoğan and other well known pseudo dictators employ.
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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #469 on: August 22, 2018, 02:58:52 PM »
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Cohen Has ‘Knowledge’ of Russia Campaign Conspiracy, Lawyer Says
President Donald Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, has "knowledge" about computer hacking and collusion that may interest Special Counsel Robert Mueller in his investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, Cohen’s lawyer said.

One day after Cohen pleaded guilty to illegal campaign finance charges over hush money paid to a porn actress and a former Playboy model -- all but naming Trump as having ordered him to do it -- Cohen’s lawyer said Wednesday he would be happy to share the information with the special counsel or Congress.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-21/trump-s-terrible-day-sees-cohen-plead-guilty-manafort-convicted


Is this hype or is the shit about to hit the fan?
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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #470 on: August 22, 2018, 03:25:21 PM »
Don't get your hopes up.
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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #471 on: August 22, 2018, 04:41:13 PM »
Don't get your hopes up.

Oh, I understand the whole thing might sink into that swamp Trump said he would drain (but that he has actually extended in area and deepened). And if he gets dumped America and, by extension, the world will have Pence to deal with as Recusant said.

Unfortunately maturity has never cured my addiction to schadenfreude! Or maybe age, and experience, has sharpened it.
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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #472 on: January 05, 2019, 02:00:54 AM »
Congressman Guiterriz tells it as it is.  He is really outspoken and pretty close to the way that it is.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ScCMHhnkUk

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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #473 on: January 07, 2019, 07:44:59 PM »
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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #474 on: February 10, 2019, 01:45:37 AM »
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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #475 on: February 13, 2019, 07:59:40 AM »
Culled from FaceBook.

"Tim Beer
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Someone on Quora asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?" Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England wrote this magnificent response.

A few things spring to mind.

Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.

For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.

So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.

I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.

But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.

Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.

And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.

Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.

Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.

And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.

Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.

He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.

He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.

And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.

That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.

There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down.

So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
* Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
* You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.

After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.

God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.

He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.

In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws - he would make a Trump.

And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:

'My God… what… have… I… created?

If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set."
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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #476 on: February 13, 2019, 12:03:47 PM »
Very good, dragged on a bit.

I still like Deniro's response best.

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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #477 on: February 13, 2019, 01:00:01 PM »
It as mazes me how effortlessly he lies. I like to tell tall tales about myself an others, but I make them so outlandish and fanciful that it is, or should be, obvious to anyone what they are - tall tales and jokes meant to carry a point or get a laugh. His lies are petty. They are meant to bolster his credibility, and they have been shown to be lies over and over again. I can understand people agreeing with what he wants to do. I don't agree with them, but I can understand that. What I can't understand is someone agreeing so strongly with what he wants to do that they defend his nonexistent past accomplishments. It's okay to fail, whether you do so in business, marriage, or life. Failure is how we learn from mistakes so that we don't make the same ones going forward but you have to admit your shortcomings in order to address them. Trump doesn't do that. If you listen to him speak you get the impression he thinks himself a kind of Superman while I hear the rambling of an old drunk at the bar who nobody in their right mind would believe fully.
 

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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #478 on: February 13, 2019, 01:12:47 PM »
I could shoot somebody and not loose any votes.
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