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Re: Talking to myself . . .
« Reply #270 on: February 13, 2018, 06:04:53 PM »
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If you know any child or learning psychologists send that gif to them and ask their opinion.
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I rather send it to Davin.




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Re: Talking to myself . . .
« Reply #271 on: February 13, 2018, 07:03:12 PM »
I have a drinking problem too. I can drink beer like a viking on a snowy day, and I can drink Jesus' blood like a thirsty mother fucking vampire.


My grandpa used to let me dip my little finger in a glass of sangria once a year. Every year.

Now look at me!
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Love you grandpa...Wherever you are.  I hope you went to sangria heaven. :grin:
Everything is about amounts, too much of anything is bad... that's why it's a tautology. The "drinking things from a glass bottle is child abuse" though is far too ridiculous for me to take very seriously.

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Re: Talking to myself . . .
« Reply #272 on: February 13, 2018, 07:35:39 PM »
Well, it may be just a joke . . .

However I put it in a similar bracket to "candy cigarettes". Just a candy for kids, bit of fun . . But now banned in many countries because the esrly formed "habit" may encourage kids to smoke real cigarettes later.  Such seemjngly harmless "hsbits", again at an early age before d7scretion and critical thinking are developed,, potentially transmute into more serious ones later.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candy_cigarette
This is a false equivalency. Cigarettes are not normal things people do, it is a very specific action. It's also not something that a person needs to do. Drinking things however is a necessity, we can't get out of drinking things. I ate a lot of those candy cigarettes as a kid. I don't smoke.

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Goes for many things, a sweet tooth is "learned" early and can lead to diabetes later.
Well shit, I guess that's the problem with all these diabetes, kids eating some candy. Never seen a kid deprived of something their whole life and then suddenly realizing that it's delicious? Yeah, from normal weight to obese in a few years. It's better to teach kids how to do things in moderation than to outright ban everything. That doesn't necessarily mean letting them do something under parental supervision. But lying about the effects of drugs, like alcohol and others, hurts more than it helps. Keep your hyperbole down, some of us are trying to have fun.

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If you know any child or learning psychologists send that gif to them and ask their opinion.
This is a old timers tactic. My mother loved it. Except for all the times I did precisely that and proved her wrong. It's like an appeal to authority fallacy, but without any actual authority to appeal to, just the promise that any authority that one may go to would just agree with you. Unfortunately it's not very effective when used against rational people.

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Not quite relevant because it deals with adolescent drinking . . But perhaps parental drinking hsbits, even "pseudo-boozing" with their kids, could be a factor.

https://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/adolescentflyer/adolflyer.htm

We have similar problems over here.
Oh, you're so right. You know what else beer is served in? Glasses. Don't let kids drink things from glasses, because that's child abuse that leads to alcoholism.

Or... we just take your musings as they are, baseless assertions attempted to be presented as something having evidential backing.

Check out these other examples of childhood drinking that clearly constitutes child abuse and destine the kids to a life of substance addiction.


Anyway, I really think your taking this too far. You can see the bottle is empty, the kid is not actually drinking a beer. Teaching kids that people can have fun while drinking a beer is not child abuse. I think you're misusing that term.

There are a lot of studies that "show" a lot of things when it comes to raising children, not all of them are worth anything. Even if you could have gotten your hands on some and provided them we'd have to make sure they apply. But you didn't so we don't know.

I was beat severely for not sleeping long enough during nap time. That is abuse. I was hit with a tree branch until the branch broke because of a suspicion that I might have eaten some chocolate chips. That is abuse. That gif though? That's not abuse.

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Re: Talking to myself . . .
« Reply #273 on: February 13, 2018, 08:06:36 PM »
^^^
Very nice, Davin.



I agree with Davin, Dave. You're exaggerating a little bit.

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Re: Talking to myself . . .
« Reply #274 on: February 14, 2018, 12:07:21 AM »
Confucius say: You're not really drinking alone if your dog is at home.    My dog is home.... :puppysnicker:

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Re: Talking to myself . . .
« Reply #275 on: February 14, 2018, 12:41:13 AM »
Confucius say: You're not really drinking alone if your dog is at home.    My dog is home.... :puppysnicker:
I have a fish. Does that count?  :notsure:

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Re: Talking to myself . . .
« Reply #276 on: February 14, 2018, 03:00:19 AM »
Confucius say: You're not really drinking alone if your dog is at home.    My dog is home.... :puppysnicker:
I have a fish. Does that count?  :notsure:

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Re: Talking to myself . . .
« Reply #277 on: February 14, 2018, 04:49:06 AM »
Confucius say: You're not really drinking alone if your dog is at home.    My dog is home.... :puppysnicker:
I have a fish. Does that count?  :notsure:

I think a fish counts as a double yes.


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Re: Talking to myself . . .
« Reply #278 on: February 14, 2018, 02:22:50 PM »

Always question all authorities because the authority you don't question is the most dangerous... except me, never question me.

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Re: Talking to myself . . .
« Reply #279 on: February 14, 2018, 03:22:25 PM »
Seeing all this talk about drinking problems, I hereby declare that I do not have a drinking problem:  If I drink a lot, I get drunk.  If I get drunk, I fall down.  No problem!
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Re: Talking to myself . . .
« Reply #280 on: February 14, 2018, 04:49:23 PM »
^^^
Very nice, Davin.



I agree with Davin, Dave. You're exaggerating a little bit.

You are, Mags, entitled to agree with anyone whose world view accords with your own. I'll just offer these as reference:

https://www.livestrong.com/article/75282-parents-effect-child-behavior/

https://my.vanderbilt.edu/developmentalpsychologyblog/2014/04/how-do-you-affect-your-child/

That "amusing behaviour" you teach your toddler can become "that annoying behaviour" ten years later. Encouraging it 2 and punishing it at 12 can possibly confuse a kid and lead to emotional and/or behavioural problems. Excepting genetic problems, congenital conditions (not caused by the mother's habits), any kind of abuse by a non-family person (of which the parents are ignorant), and physical injury parents get the kids they raise, there is nothing and no-one else to praise or blame.

I have no more to say on this.
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Re: Talking to myself . . .
« Reply #281 on: February 14, 2018, 07:46:41 PM »
^^^
Very nice, Davin.



I agree with Davin, Dave. You're exaggerating a little bit.

You are, Mags, entitled to agree with anyone whose world view accords with your own. I'll just offer these as reference:

https://www.livestrong.com/article/75282-parents-effect-child-behavior/

https://my.vanderbilt.edu/developmentalpsychologyblog/2014/04/how-do-you-affect-your-child/

That "amusing behaviour" you teach your toddler can become "that annoying behaviour" ten years later. Encouraging it 2 and punishing it at 12 can possibly confuse a kid and lead to emotional and/or behavioural problems. Excepting genetic problems, congenital conditions (not caused by the mother's habits), any kind of abuse by a non-family person (of which the parents are ignorant), and physical injury parents get the kids they raise, there is nothing and no-one else to praise or blame.

I have no more to say on this.
Dave,

Why are you giving me advice on how to raise my children? When I, you , or anyone else here talks about drinking wine it's always just a comment. Davin posted that gif that apparently bothered you a lot, not me. Why are you judging my parenting skills?

You don't know me. You don't know my kids. You don't even know how I act or what I do when and if I drink. You don't even know if my kids are around. I'm sorry if you had a bad experience with drunk adults when you were a child, I didn't. Please don't assume my house is a hell hole. Davin mentioned what child abuse is, I know what child abuse is, you know. That gif is not.

I made my post in the, Talking To Myself, thread because I'm just talking to myself. Apparently, I'm not. You made this thread, please change the tittle to, Come Be Judged.

This is not the parenting thread, or the, ask thread. I find it funny that people who never had children want to "advice" me. --Fuck that shit.
Don't confuse me with the people you hang out with.

"I have no more to say on this." Yes, you've said enough, and to the wrong person.

Fuck, now I want some coffee with Kahlua.  :headshake:

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Re: Talking to myself . . .
« Reply #282 on: February 15, 2018, 12:38:29 PM »
No Mags, I'd recommend a coffee, followed by a good stiff whisky! :grin:
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Re: Talking to myself . . .
« Reply #283 on: February 16, 2018, 01:27:22 AM »
Mags I  admire and respect you for being defensive about the way you treat your children.  That is what good moms do.  Great moms are likely to be deadly  ferocious about  their children's welfare.  One is wise never ever threaten the lion mothers cubs.  Granted that, you might be a tad over sensitive above, but we do understand your posture.   Peace.

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Re: Talking to myself . . .
« Reply #284 on: February 16, 2018, 02:17:40 AM »
... Granted that, you might be a tad over sensitive above, but ...
Maybe.