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Re: Another Nitwitted Idea From a US Republican Presidential Candidate . . .
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2015, 11:17:44 PM »
Yeah, I'm sure. You don't think the US is civilized compared to many middle eastern countries? African countries? North Korea? Too many to list really.
The point was that the Republican candidate wants to push Christianity across the world. I would assume he reasoning would be to make the world a more loving, beautiful place. Lol

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Re: Another Nitwitted Idea From a US Republican Presidential Candidate . . .
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2015, 02:33:39 AM »
Yeah, I'm sure. You don't think the US is civilized compared to many middle eastern countries? African countries? North Korea? Too many to list really.
The point was that the Republican candidate wants to push Christianity across the world. I would assume he reasoning would be to make the world a more loving, beautiful place. Lol

Every country is going to have their own standards which usually places themselves at the top. Something found horrible and vile in one country is to be seen as a norm in another. The Japanese famously adore French culture but find their mannerisms highly uncouth. Indians looked upon the Brits as dirty because they wiped their arses rather than washed them and on and on. When you break it down to its basics it is just different methods of doing the same things.
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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2015, 02:59:04 AM »
Yes, the "norm" surely does have varying definitions for sure.
But "civilized" can't possibly be seen as cutting off heads, public beatings, beating women for their profession and such.

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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2015, 06:57:27 AM »
Yes, the "norm" surely does have varying definitions for sure.
But "civilized" can't possibly be seen as cutting off heads, public beatings, beating women for their profession and such.

I understand what you’re saying, Steeler, people commit horrific acts, but in ‘civilized’ countries, there’s also ‘uncivilized’ things going on. There’s a lot of police brutality going on here, too many “Rodney King-type arrests.” Check it out: Police in the US Kill Citizens at Over 70 Times the Rate of Other First-World Nations

There’s also violence against women in ‘civilized’ countries, but it’s more private. All states made  ”wife beating” illegal by 1920, but only since the 1970s has the criminal justice system begun to treat domestic violence as a serious crime, not as a private family matter. So the don’t beat up your woman, just because you can-law, is not that old, we started taking care of our women recently--Well, sort of, there's still a lot of violence against women.

There’s also torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment of Guantánamo detainees, what justifies it? It’s to ‘fight terrorism.’ I guess it’s the ‘civilized’ way ‘civilized’ countries handle the problems the ‘uncivilized’ countries give us.  :-\

I just think we need to fix many things in our own home before we point our finger at the neighbor's house.  :-\

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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2015, 12:56:52 PM »
I agree we are not and never will be perfect, still plenty of room to improve.
At least here I can rest my head at night without many of the worries people have in other parts of the world. I am thankful for that.

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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2015, 12:58:35 PM »
I agree we are not and never will be perfect, still plenty of room to improve.
At least here I can rest my head at night without many of the worries people have in other parts of the world. I am thankful for that.
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Re: Another Nitwitted Idea From a US Republican Presidential Candidate . . .
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2015, 03:56:01 PM »
Yes, the "norm" surely does have varying definitions for sure.
But "civilized" can't possibly be seen as cutting off heads, public beatings, beating women for their profession and such.

As Maggy states things of horrific magnitude happen in every country be it persecution of a certain type of people, a corrupt justice system, politicians using the state for their own pleasures, state executions or whatever. But when it comes to other countries you are viewing cultures through a different lens and hyper inflated especially if they have come through the lens of media which is weaving a specific narrative for the story they are telling.

We all know cutting of heads (murder), public beatings (fights) and people who beat women for their profession (porn) happens in the US as well as pretty much every country and can usually be found in video form with a quick google search. The horrors at home are usually covered up or not reported upon in depth unless it taps into a curiosity of the public whilst foreign ones are covered in depth usually by a person that has never experienced the culture before and dropped into the worst and unusual expression of the culture.

If you look at how Japan is often reported upon when it comes to its quirks it is presented that used panties can be bought from a vending machine on every corner, whilst it is true they exist you are only really likely to find them in places like Kabukicho and even then they aren't going to be on prime display, what's more you could get this sort of product in most countries anyway because if there is a demand there will always be a supply. But why is it reported on in Japan but not the UK, simply because people tend to like seeing the weird stuff the Japanese have, be it technology or perversions it doesn't matter how obscure it is as long as they hit their target audience. Same thing goes for the middle east, it is always being presented as a grimy dirty place that is full of war with rampant ideologies where people spit everywhere and scream and shout all the time, then compare that to when it used to be referred to as the orient (pre 20th century) where it was depicted as a land of wealth and mystery that was glamorised with adapted version of Arabian Nights where everything was covered in gold, marble, and exotic stones, the people were heavily perfumed and and wore the finest fabrics. Why is this? Could it be that back then there was a want to justify colonialism but now there is a want to justify military action.
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« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2015, 08:50:48 PM »
Yes, the "norm" surely does have varying definitions for sure.
But "civilized" can't possibly be seen as cutting off heads, public beatings, beating women for their profession and such.

As Maggy states things of horrific magnitude happen in every country be it persecution of a certain type of people, a corrupt justice system, politicians using the state for their own pleasures, state executions or whatever. But when it comes to other countries you are viewing cultures through a different lens and hyper inflated especially if they have come through the lens of media which is weaving a specific narrative for the story they are telling.

We all know cutting of heads (murder), public beatings (fights) and people who beat women for their profession (porn) happens in the US as well as pretty much every country and can usually be found in video form with a quick google search. The horrors at home are usually covered up or not reported upon in depth unless it taps into a curiosity of the public whilst foreign ones are covered in depth usually by a person that has never experienced the culture before and dropped into the worst and unusual expression of the culture.

If you look at how Japan is often reported upon when it comes to its quirks it is presented that used panties can be bought from a vending machine on every corner, whilst it is true they exist you are only really likely to find them in places like Kabukicho and even then they aren't going to be on prime display, what's more you could get this sort of product in most countries anyway because if there is a demand there will always be a supply. But why is it reported on in Japan but not the UK, simply because people tend to like seeing the weird stuff the Japanese have, be it technology or perversions it doesn't matter how obscure it is as long as they hit their target audience. Same thing goes for the middle east, it is always being presented as a grimy dirty place that is full of war with rampant ideologies where people spit everywhere and scream and shout all the time, then compare that to when it used to be referred to as the orient (pre 20th century) where it was depicted as a land of wealth and mystery that was glamorised with adapted version of Arabian Nights where everything was covered in gold, marble, and exotic stones, the people were heavily perfumed and and wore the finest fabrics. Why is this? Could it be that back then there was a want to justify colonialism but now there is a want to justify military action.

I get that. I'm sure the media does stretch it out, but I'm sticking to my story that the western world is pretty lucky. :-*

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« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2015, 09:50:48 PM »
I get that. I'm sure the media does stretch it out, but I'm sticking to my story that the western world is pretty lucky. :-*

At this period of time yeah it is decent but that can quickly change and from my experience of other countries I would pick the West or the Far East as life is far more to my tastes. However I have yet to experience people as savages or less cultured just different and there are many things from those cultures that I happily have appropriated, there are also things that I couldn't stand.
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« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2015, 01:45:29 AM »
That's cool. I'll admit, this redneck has no plans to travel outside the US. Too chicken shit.
Plus there is more to see here than I probably ever will. 8)