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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #300 on: April 23, 2019, 09:59:38 PM »
Argh, we really need an emoji banging its head against the wall!


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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #301 on: April 23, 2019, 10:02:20 PM »
Argh, we really need an emoji banging its head against the wall!



Excellent!  :thumbsup: Gracias!

Recusant, can we add this to the emoji zoo?
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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #302 on: April 24, 2019, 06:45:52 AM »
Seems too mild for the idea of banging a head against the wall. How about this one?



I have nothing against adding them both, for that matter.  :grin:
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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #303 on: April 24, 2019, 07:54:14 AM »
normal theists.

creationists.
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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #304 on: April 24, 2019, 09:07:29 AM »
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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #305 on: April 25, 2019, 01:40:59 PM »
Seems too mild for the idea of banging a head against the wall. How about this one?



I have nothing against adding them both, for that matter.  :grin:

Wow, that one's really trying to cause multiple skull fractures, isn't it? I like it! :grin:

:notsure: I have nothing against them both being in the emoji zoo either. There is a nuanced difference between them.  :snicker:
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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #306 on: November 11, 2019, 02:47:00 PM »
Please help! Does this sentence structure work? It's for a paper title:

Gene 1 and gene 2 expression in the early detection of kidney disease in liquid biopsy.

I can't add the whole title here, but I've added a generic term to the underlined bits.

Some more context: expression of two genes in urine samples are being tested as potential biomarkers for early diagnosis of a certain kidney disease. 
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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #307 on: November 11, 2019, 03:01:06 PM »
Please help! Does this sentence structure work? It's for a paper title:

Gene 1 and gene 2 expression in the early detection of kidney disease in liquid biopsy.

I can't add the whole title here, but I've added a generic term to the underlined bits.

Some more context: expression of two genes in urine samples are being tested as potential biomarkers for early diagnosis of a certain kidney disease.

Not my field, so perhaps I am misinterpreting what it means, but my suggestion would be:

Gene 1 and gene 2 expression in the early liquid biopsy detection of kidney disease.

I think it reads better that way, but perhaps the meaning is not correct.
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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #308 on: November 11, 2019, 04:22:10 PM »
Please help! Does this sentence structure work? It's for a paper title:

Gene 1 and gene 2 expression in the early detection of kidney disease in liquid biopsy.

I can't add the whole title here, but I've added a generic term to the underlined bits.

Some more context: expression of two genes in urine samples are being tested as potential biomarkers for early diagnosis of a certain kidney disease.

Not my field, so perhaps I am misinterpreting what it means, but my suggestion would be:

Gene 1 and gene 2 expression in the early liquid biopsy detection of kidney disease.

I think it reads better that way, but perhaps the meaning is not correct.

That does flow better.  :thumbsup:
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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #309 on: November 11, 2019, 06:11:46 PM »
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Gene 1 and gene 2 expression in the early liquid biopsy detection of kidney disease.

minor point, in referring to "the early liquid biopzy detection," the definite article "the" impliez that you are evaluating a unique detection protocol, one which is unambiguously singular.

removing the definite article and leaving the title like this:

"Gene 1 and gene 2 expression in early liquid biopsy detection of kidney disease"

does not so imply a unique method, and leavez open the possibility that there may be more than one detection protocol and the method being discussed may be one of several.

but this is minor even for english, which is full of zhades of meaning like this.
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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #310 on: November 11, 2019, 06:19:26 PM »
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Gene 1 and gene 2 expression in the early liquid biopsy detection of kidney disease.

minor point, in referring to "the early liquid biopzy detection," the definite article "the" impliez that you are evaluating a unique detection protocol, one which is unambiguously singular.

removing the definite article and leaving the title like this:

"Gene 1 and gene 2 expression in early liquid biopsy detection of kidney disease"

does not so imply a unique method, and leavez open the possibility that there may be more than one detection protocol and the method being discussed may be one of several.

but this is minor even for english, which is full of zhades of meaning like this.

Good point, billy rubin!
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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #311 on: November 11, 2019, 09:50:12 PM »
Please help! Does this sentence structure work? It's for a paper title:

Gene 1 and gene 2 expression in the early detection of kidney disease in liquid biopsy.

I can't add the whole title here, but I've added a generic term to the underlined bits.

Some more context: expression of two genes in urine samples are being tested as potential biomarkers for early diagnosis of a certain kidney disease.

Not my field, so perhaps I am misinterpreting what it means, but my suggestion would be:

Gene 1 and gene 2 expression in the early liquid biopsy detection of kidney disease.

I think it reads better that way, but perhaps the meaning is not correct.

Also noting billy rubin's point as entirely valid I also note that the original wording implies that the kidney disease occurs in liquid biopsy which of course is nonsense,  The alternate wording removes this. 
English is a bit of a bugger for this sort of thing with its lack of formal endings on words to clarify the subject and object of the verb, word order is our only tool for this.
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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #312 on: November 11, 2019, 10:15:30 PM »
Please help! Does this sentence structure work? It's for a paper title:

Gene 1 and gene 2 expression in the early detection of kidney disease in liquid biopsy.

I can't add the whole title here, but I've added a generic term to the underlined bits.

Some more context: expression of two genes in urine samples are being tested as potential biomarkers for early diagnosis of a certain kidney disease.

Not my field, so perhaps I am misinterpreting what it means, but my suggestion would be:

Gene 1 and gene 2 expression in the early liquid biopsy detection of kidney disease.

I think it reads better that way, but perhaps the meaning is not correct.

Also noting billy rubin's point as entirely valid I also note that the original wording implies that the kidney disease occurs in liquid biopsy which of course is nonsense,  The alternate wording removes this. 
English is a bit of a bugger for this sort of thing with its lack of formal endings on words to clarify the subject and object of the verb, word order is our only tool for this.

Yes, I see what you mean.  :thumbsup:

The phrase is the product of Google Translate, so you see why it's so odd. If I'm not delirious in my assessment, one would have to switch 'in' for 'by' in in liquid biopsy for it to make more sense? Detection by liquid biopsy...
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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #313 on: November 11, 2019, 11:59:55 PM »
does it sound better in gibberish?

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Re: I Need Help From All You Native Speakers Once Again
« Reply #314 on: November 12, 2019, 12:13:22 AM »
does it sound better in gibberish?

Kono 1 pi kono 7 oxplossien din zo oaxalrupp riquid fiepsupp potondien eb gidnoupp isoaxaso.

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