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« Reply #135 on: August 15, 2012, 05:12:23 PM » |
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Errm, I think the meaning has changed over time, haha. I don't think "Hey diddle diddle, the cat and the fiddle" is about sex, either.  I dunno. Fiddling with pussy sounds a bit suggestive to me. |
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« Reply #136 on: August 15, 2012, 06:14:35 PM » |
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Errm, I think the meaning has changed over time, haha.
I don't think "Hey diddle diddle, the cat and the fiddle" is about sex, either. It seems you are correct. The first use of "diddle" as slang for the act of copulation is cited by the Online Etymology Dictionary as 1879, while the first publication of "The Cat and the Fiddle" is given on Wikipedia (presumably by way of The Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes) as approximately 1765. Apparently there is much conjecture as to its original meaning. |
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« Reply #137 on: August 15, 2012, 06:49:47 PM » |
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Errm, I think the meaning has changed over time, haha.
I don't think "Hey diddle diddle, the cat and the fiddle" is about sex, either. It seems you are correct. The first use of "diddle" as slang for the act of copulation is cited by the Online Etymology Dictionary as 1879, while the first publication of "The Cat and the Fiddle" is given on Wikipedia (presumably by way of The Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes) as approximately 1765. Apparently there is much conjecture as to its original meaning. Good post, Recusant. "Ring around the Rosie" was shown not to be about the plague when scholars looked up dates in the same fashion. The urban legend remains, however. |
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« Reply #138 on: August 15, 2012, 07:00:09 PM » |
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Errm, I think the meaning has changed over time, haha.
I don't think "Hey diddle diddle, the cat and the fiddle" is about sex, either. It seems you are correct. The first use of "diddle" as slang for the act of copulation is cited by the Online Etymology Dictionary as 1879, while the first publication of "The Cat and the Fiddle" is given on Wikipedia (presumably by way of The Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes) as approximately 1765. Apparently there is much conjecture as to its original meaning. Good post, Recusant. "Ring around the Rosie" was shown not to be about the plague when scholars looked up dates in the same fashion. The urban legend remains, however. Aw, i thought it WAS about the black plague. I was lied to as a kid! ;-; |
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« Reply #139 on: August 15, 2012, 07:34:37 PM » |
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LOL - I gotta tell ya, I had no idea my throwaway use of such a simple slang term was going to generate this much discussion. I'm really surprised...and amused.  |
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« Reply #140 on: August 15, 2012, 10:37:13 PM » |
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Errm, I think the meaning has changed over time, haha.
I don't think "Hey diddle diddle, the cat and the fiddle" is about sex, either. It seems you are correct. The first use of "diddle" as slang for the act of copulation is cited by the Online Etymology Dictionary as 1879, while the first publication of "The Cat and the Fiddle" is given on Wikipedia (presumably by way of The Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes) as approximately 1765. Apparently there is much conjecture as to its original meaning. Good post, Recusant. "Ring around the Rosie" was shown not to be about the plague when scholars looked up dates in the same fashion. The urban legend remains, however. Aw, i thought it WAS about the black plague. I was lied to as a kid! ;-; Me too.  And we would sing that song in all innocence over and over again. |
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« Reply #141 on: August 15, 2012, 11:27:58 PM » |
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Errm, I think the meaning has changed over time, haha.
I don't think "Hey diddle diddle, the cat and the fiddle" is about sex, either. It seems you are correct. The first use of "diddle" as slang for the act of copulation is cited by the Online Etymology Dictionary as 1879, while the first publication of "The Cat and the Fiddle" is given on Wikipedia (presumably by way of The Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes) as approximately 1765. Apparently there is much conjecture as to its original meaning. Good post, Recusant. "Ring around the Rosie" was shown not to be about the plague when scholars looked up dates in the same fashion. The urban legend remains, however. Aw, i thought it WAS about the black plague. I was lied to as a kid! ;-; Me too. And we would sing that song in all innocence over and over again. Now I'm curious as to what the hell it was actually about. |
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"Law 35- You got to go with what works." - Robin Lefler Wiggum:"You have that much faith in me, Homer?" Homer:"No! Faith is what you have in things that don't exist. Your awesomeness is real." “I was thinking that perhaps this thing called God does not exist. Because He cannot save any one of us. No matter how we pray, He doesn’t mend our wounds. No matter how we plead, He doesn’t strike down our enemies. There hasn’t been an instance where He has cured our sick. Powerless, we can only wait to be tossed onto the dirt of a foreign land. He doesn’t have a thread of spiritual existence. If only there were a shadow, a whisper. But I haven’t felt Him once.” — 稲荷家房之介 - Giglio |
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« Reply #142 on: August 16, 2012, 07:08:36 PM » |
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Errm, I think the meaning has changed over time, haha.
I don't think "Hey diddle diddle, the cat and the fiddle" is about sex, either. It seems you are correct. The first use of "diddle" as slang for the act of copulation is cited by the Online Etymology Dictionary as 1879, while the first publication of "The Cat and the Fiddle" is given on Wikipedia (presumably by way of The Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes) as approximately 1765. Apparently there is much conjecture as to its original meaning. Good post, Recusant. "Ring around the Rosie" was shown not to be about the plague when scholars looked up dates in the same fashion. The urban legend remains, however. Aw, i thought it WAS about the black plague. I was lied to as a kid! ;-; Me too. And we would sing that song in all innocence over and over again. Now I'm curious as to what the hell it was actually about. I think this is one of the rare cases where it really is just a children's game song, nothing more. I am not a folklorist, and I have no special expertise in this song. All I can do is given my opinion, which could be wrong. If I wanted to research the song academically, it would take years--with trips to many libraries througout the U.S. and U.K. A quick Internet search (not an academic one) shows that many think the original version came from New Bedford, Massachusetts in 1790: Ring a ring a rosie A bottle full of posie All the girls in our town Ring for little Josie |
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