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Title: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Tank on March 28, 2017, 06:45:37 AM
Found on facebook.

"Adeshola IamGranitic Salaudeen wrote " That is why religion told us,through mohammed of course that the cure to all disease in the world is on the wing of a housefly, so sir Alexander Fleming used that information to Discover penicillin."
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Magdalena on March 28, 2017, 06:49:08 AM
"Fed up with stupid."
Tank, you're fed up with stupid?
 :lol:
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Tank on March 28, 2017, 06:57:03 AM
Oh I am. I have had enough of trying to be polite to idiots who think there is some sort of Sky Daddy running this shite hole.
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Tank on March 28, 2017, 06:58:20 AM
There is so much material out there I think this thread will grow and grow.
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Arturo on March 28, 2017, 07:29:53 AM
There is so much material out there I think this thread will grow and grow.
I think we could just move anything dredge said to this thread.
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: No one on March 28, 2017, 09:21:49 AM
I often wonder how the species has survived as long as it has.
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Tank on March 28, 2017, 12:41:11 PM
 :rofl: I got had it was a Poe!!!!
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: joeactor on March 28, 2017, 03:10:16 PM
Just yesterday I saw a FB post claiming that aluminum foil causes Alzheimer's.

I replied with the Snopes link refuting the claim as "mostly false".

Got a response back about "not taking any chances", and "don't trust snopes", and "free country - so do what you want".

... then I replied with a warning about di-hydrogen-monoxide (with a link).

They agreed that that's dangerous stuff.

(forehead. desk. forehead. desk. forehead. desk...)
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Tank on March 28, 2017, 07:04:10 PM
Just yesterday I saw a FB post claiming that aluminum foil causes Alzheimer's.

I replied with the Snopes link refuting the claim as "mostly false".

Got a response back about "not taking any chances", and "don't trust snopes", and "free country - so do what you want".

... then I replied with a warning about di-hydrogen-monoxide (with a link).

They agreed that that's dangerous stuff.

(forehead. desk. forehead. desk. forehead. desk...)

 :rofl:
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: joeactor on March 28, 2017, 08:21:30 PM
Proof of Facebook Duh:

(http://www.joesdump.com/images/Facebook_Duh_blur_20170327.png)
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Pasta Chick on March 28, 2017, 08:29:23 PM
I saw a post about the obnoxiousness of mansplaining earlier. The comment thread was about 1/3 men explaining mansplaining.

I guess I don't follow enough religiously themed things to get the stuff that's really relevant here.
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Tank on March 28, 2017, 08:30:27 PM
I saw a post about the obnoxiousness of mansplaining earlier. The comment thread was about 1/3 men explaining mansplaining.

I guess I don't follow enough religiously themed things to get the stuff that's really relevant here.
Stupid is as stupid does. If it's stupid post it!
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Pasta Chick on March 29, 2017, 02:20:07 AM
I lost track of the mansplaining thread, but here's an anti-vax nut who doesn't even understand how vaccines are injected.

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g124/The_Christ/IMG_5521.png)
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Sandra Craft on March 29, 2017, 04:09:41 AM

... then I replied with a warning about di-hydrogen-monoxide (with a link).

They agreed that that's dangerous stuff.

(forehead. desk. forehead. desk. forehead. desk...)

Darn that double H, single O stuff -- it's just everywhere!
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Magdalena on March 29, 2017, 05:22:30 AM

... then I replied with a warning about di-hydrogen-monoxide (with a link).

They agreed that that's dangerous stuff.

(forehead. desk. forehead. desk. forehead. desk...)

Darn that double H, single O stuff -- it's just everywhere!

BooksCatsEtc! It's nice to see you here, again.  :hug:

The other day I saw this GIF, and I thought, "Maybe BooksCatsEtc used to do this when she was just a baby."  :tellmemore:
: show
(http://img.over-blog-kiwi.com/0/54/13/58/20160608/ob_6770fa_elgujnmiwowk8.gif)

 :grin:
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Arturo on March 29, 2017, 10:36:54 AM

... then I replied with a warning about di-hydrogen-monoxide (with a link).

They agreed that that's dangerous stuff.

(forehead. desk. forehead. desk. forehead. desk...)

Darn that double H, single O stuff -- it's just everywhere!

BooksCatsEtc! It's nice to see you here, again.  :hug:

The other day I saw this GIF, and I thought, "Maybe BooksCatsEtc used to do this when she was just a baby."  :tellmemore:
: show
(http://img.over-blog-kiwi.com/0/54/13/58/20160608/ob_6770fa_elgujnmiwowk8.gif)

 :grin:

: clapping: You're so fucking nice! :clapping:
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Davin on March 29, 2017, 02:36:17 PM
I lost track of the mansplaining thread, but here's an anti-vax nut who doesn't even understand how vaccines are injected.

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g124/The_Christ/IMG_5521.png)
Wow, medicines are really poisons...
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Pasta Chick on March 29, 2017, 05:29:27 PM
Has anyone actually had an IV vaccine, ever? I have never had or administered one (specifically pertaining to dogs and cats) and as far as I can tell there is only a malaria vaccine is given IV.

But the whole "directly into the bloodstream!!!!1!" thing is actually something I hear a lot
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Papasito Bruno on March 29, 2017, 05:46:30 PM
Has anyone actually had an IV vaccine, ever? I have never had or administered one (specifically pertaining to dogs and cats) and as far as I can tell there is only a malaria vaccine is given IV.

But the whole "directly into the bloodstream!!!!1!" thing is actually something I hear a lot

I've heard this often as well, especially from the "anit-vaxers" and have always put it off to a combination of ignorance and colloquialism; the fact they don't realize vaccines are injected into tissue and not directly into a vein, and peoples perceptions that any type of injection goes directly into the bloodstream.

They also seem to like the word "toxins".


I do dig her name though, "Patty Ganshirt Cloonan". Sounds sexy if you say it with a bit of Scottish brogue.



Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Dave on March 29, 2017, 05:48:52 PM
Has anyone actually had an IV vaccine, ever? I have never had or administered one (specifically pertaining to dogs and cats) and as far as I can tell there is only a malaria vaccine is given IV.

But the whole "directly into the bloodstream!!!!1!" thing is actually something I hear a lot
I was on an IV drip with antibiotics (the name says it all) for a week for a suspected infection on my cardiac implant wires that could possibly threaten my heart. Absolutely no problems at all.

I know of others who have been on similar drips for over a month for stubborn diseases.

Are there any IV vaccines? All those I have had have been intra-muscular or via a surface scratch. Oh, plus the oral polio vaccine.
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Davin on March 29, 2017, 06:06:16 PM
My mom was/is anti-vax. So I was never vaccinated against anything until I was about 20 when she decided to let me know.

I'm also autistic, which I think is kind of funny. That's not why my mom didn't vaccinate us, but when I heard that was a reason why some people didn't, I think it's a bit funny.

As far as stupid things, there are two tings my mom said that were kind of dumb.

Quote
Only men can be sexist.

The sexism in that statement still eludes her.

Quote
Atlas Shrugged is what is happening now.
This was before the election, apparently she doesn't want the government to support people down on their luck. There are two things funny about this one.

Atlas Shrugged is almost the exact opposite of what's going on. In Atlas Shrugged, the corporations and the wealthy were being persecuted by the big bad government and their money taken and given to the lazy poor who just sit around demanding things. While in reality, corporations and the wealthy are being benefited by the government and the poor are on their way to getting almost no support at all.

The other funny thing about this, is that she and my father have been living off of government assistance for a while. But THEY need it, it's all those other people on well-fare that are lazy unproductive members of society who don't deserve any support and should lift themselves out of poverty.
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Magdalena on March 29, 2017, 07:39:58 PM
My mom was/is anti-vax. So I was never vaccinated against anything until I was about 20 when she decided to let me know.

I'm also autistic, which I think is kind of funny. That's not why my mom didn't vaccinate us, but when I heard that was a reason why some people didn't, I think it's a bit funny.

As far as stupid things, there are two tings my mom said that were kind of dumb.

Quote
Only men can be sexist.

The sexism in that statement still eludes her.

Quote
Atlas Shrugged is what is happening now.
This was before the election, apparently she doesn't want the government to support people down on their luck. There are two things funny about this one.

Atlas Shrugged is almost the exact opposite of what's going on. In Atlas Shrugged, the corporations and the wealthy were being persecuted by the big bad government and their money taken and given to the lazy poor who just sit around demanding things. While in reality, corporations and the wealthy are being benefited by the government and the poor are on their way to getting almost no support at all.

The other funny thing about this, is that she and my father have been living off of government assistance for a while. But THEY need it, it's all those other people on well-fare that are lazy unproductive members of society who don't deserve any support and should lift themselves out of poverty.
Oh, boy.  :sad sigh:
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Pasta Chick on March 30, 2017, 12:05:15 AM
My phone doesn't want me to quote.

In any case, Jim Jefferies has a great bit about vaccines in his Free Dumb show. Unfortunately I can't find just that bit online anywhere. I highly recommend it.

Some of the most sexist shit I've dealt with has been from women.

The "I need it but they don't" mindset is bizarrely common. I'm sure there's some sort of psychology there. It's a huge part of the abortion debate too.
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Sandra Craft on March 30, 2017, 02:13:06 AM


BooksCatsEtc! It's nice to see you here, again.  :hug:

Thank you!   ;D


Quote
The other day I saw this GIF, and I thought, "Maybe BooksCatsEtc used to do this when she was just a baby."  :tellmemore:
: show
(http://img.over-blog-kiwi.com/0/54/13/58/20160608/ob_6770fa_elgujnmiwowk8.gif)

 :grin:

I probably did.  At any rate there are photos of me at that age pulling all the books off a shelf.
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Arturo on March 30, 2017, 03:27:37 AM
The "I need it but they don't" mindset is bizarrely common.

What kind of things would they mention with this mindset? I don't really follow feminism or have had many female friends so I'm just curious.
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Davin on March 30, 2017, 03:01:07 PM
The "I need it but they don't" mindset is bizarrely common.

What kind of things would they mention with this mindset? I don't really follow feminism or have had many female friends so I'm just curious.
I don't think that was in reference to the feminism comment. I think that was in reference to the last one where my parents think they need well-fare support, but most other people that use it are just moochers.
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Davin on March 30, 2017, 03:45:39 PM
My phone doesn't want me to quote.

In any case, Jim Jefferies has a great bit about vaccines in his Free Dumb show. Unfortunately I can't find just that bit online anywhere. I highly recommend it.
Jim Jefferies is hilarious, I watched that special but I don't remember exactly that part of it, I'll have to watch it again.

Quote from: Pasta Chick
Some of the most sexist shit I've dealt with has been from women.
Ive seen about equal amounts from men and women. Neither seem to think that they are being sexist. It makes me worry that I am sexist and not know it either. I'm sure there are some things, so I'm open to listen if some accuses me of such.

Quote from: Pasta Chick
The "I need it but they don't" mindset is bizarrely common. I'm sure there's some sort of psychology there. It's a huge part of the abortion debate too.
Way too common. There are not enough mirrors.
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Pasta Chick on March 30, 2017, 04:39:37 PM
The "I need it but they don't" mindset is bizarrely common.

What kind of things would they mention with this mindset? I don't really follow feminism or have had many female friends so I'm just curious.
I don't think that was in reference to the feminism comment. I think that was in reference to the last one where my parents think they need well-fare support, but most other people that use it are just moochers.

Yeah. See stupid phone.

In relation to feminism it's more "this particular thing is not an issue for me, therefore everyone who says it is, is a liar".
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Pasta Chick on March 30, 2017, 04:52:29 PM

Quote from: Pasta Chick
Some of the most sexist shit I've dealt with has been from women.
Ive seen about equal amounts from men and women. Neither seem to think that they are being sexist. It makes me worry that I am sexist and not know it either. I'm sure there are some things, so I'm open to listen if some accuses me of such.


I find there are generally different mindsets between sexism in men vs women... Most women who have done sexist things toward me do so to cut me down for being too conventionally masculine or a bad example of a woman. For instance, "you're really good at that, for a girl. But hey, we have a guy here to do it so sit the F down." Not to mention shaming over sexual expression.

Whereas men do sexist stuff because they've been told that's how good men should be. They should hold doors for me from 20 feet away and grab anything over 5lbs out of my hands because my feeble little women arms couldn't possibly take the strain, and they're helping. They should censor themselves in my presence because my delicate woman ears can't handle their brashness and they're being polite (BF still doesn't really understand this and why I won't hang out with his friends, because a few of them do it CONSTANTLY. Either you think I can't handle normal conversations, or you were going to say something legitimately gross, and either way it's sexist).

That only goes for the type of social sexism we aren't so conscious of. Open misogynists are definitely different, in both genders.

As far as unintentional sexism, I think it's the same as all the other isms social conditioning pushes on us. It's unavoidable to fall in to certain traps. All we can do is think critically and try to catch and correct ourselves
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Davin on March 30, 2017, 05:05:10 PM
The "I need it but they don't" mindset is bizarrely common.

What kind of things would they mention with this mindset? I don't really follow feminism or have had many female friends so I'm just curious.
I don't think that was in reference to the feminism comment. I think that was in reference to the last one where my parents think they need well-fare support, but most other people that use it are just moochers.

Yeah. See stupid phone.

In relation to feminism it's more "this particular thing is not an issue for me, therefore everyone who says it is, is a liar".
I've heard from guys something like, "if women hooted and hollered at me as I walked by, I would actually like it."

It's like an attempt to see from the woman's perspective. But it doesn't even get half way there.

I mean, yeah, it does feel great to have other people tell you they find you attractive, and even I wouldn't mind it for a day.

Would they still like it a month later? Would they still like it a year into it? What about five years? How about their whole fucking life?

How about after they figure out that some of those girls expect them to appreciate every time. And that some see signs of appreciation as consent to try to take it further? While other girls get offended if they see no signs of appreciation as a personal offense. Would they still like it after a year of not knowing which girls to just ignore, which ones to show appreciation to, and which to never show appreciation to?

How would they feel when a group of women they are not attracted to get a bit more aggressive and the guy is all alone? Would they still like it then?

I really don't think they would. I think they would get sick of it. I think they would get uncomfortable quite often. I'm sick of just trying to imagine myself into that kind of situation. I wonder then what they would think if someone told them that they should appreciate the attention they are sick of.

I mean, it's great that they seem to be trying to see things from the woman's perspective, I don't think they go far enough.
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Pasta Chick on March 30, 2017, 05:11:01 PM
 Think when men like that imagine being cat called, they imagine only super attractive women they actually want to fuck doing it. Which is mostly a reflection of the high esteem they hold themselves in.

Also ignores that even if the woman does find him super attractive and want to fuck, social conditioning says she's a disgusting whore for feeling that way.
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Davin on March 30, 2017, 05:26:36 PM
I find there are generally different mindsets between sexism in men vs women... Most women who have done sexist things toward me do so to cut me down for being too conventionally masculine or a bad example of a woman. For instance, "you're really good at that, for a girl. But hey, we have a guy here to do it so sit the F down." Not to mention shaming over sexual expression.

Whereas men do sexist stuff because they've been told that's how good men should be. They should hold doors for me from 20 feet away and grab anything over 5lbs out of my hands because my feeble little women arms couldn't possibly take the strain, and they're helping. They should censor themselves in my presence because my delicate woman ears can't handle their brashness and they're being polite (BF still doesn't really understand this and why I won't hang out with his friends, because a few of them do it CONSTANTLY. Either you think I can't handle normal conversations, or you were going to say something legitimately gross, and either way it's sexist).
Yes, I agree. I think the differences relate to the same thing, just the tactics used are what are at least not socially unacceptable for that gender to do, or at most a socially acceptable form of cowing. Personally, I don't agree with cowing even if it's socially acceptable.

But a for instance. In a "locker room" type of situation men try to use shame to bring the outliers of the group into line with them. "Are you gay?" "You're pussy whipped." "Virgin!" "You're too weak." "You need to be more aggressive."

From several stories I've heard, women have a similar kind of shaming in their "locker room."

And there's competition, but the rules are different for men and women. Women are "meant" to get one guy and hold on to him, while men are "supposed to" get with as many girls as possible. It doesn't matter that these goals can't work together.

I'm going on too long, I think I've made my point. The tactics are different but the goals are the same: To keep others in line to play by the same rules, and to establish a hierarchy they think is useful but is actually harmful to more people than it helps.

Think when men like that imagine being cat called, they imagine only super attractive women they actually want to fuck doing it. Which is mostly a reflection of the high esteem they hold themselves in.

Also ignores that even if the woman does find him super attractive and want to fuck, social conditioning says she's a disgusting whore for feeling that way.
I think the same thing about the guys imagining themselves into it.

Also, yeah. And then it reminds of people saying things like, "it's just natural", "you can't control it." And I'm like, "Really? You manage to not shit and piss your pants the moment those urges pop up, and that's natural too."
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on March 30, 2017, 07:06:03 PM
Think when men like that imagine being cat called, they imagine only super attractive women they actually want to fuck doing it. Which is mostly a reflection of the high esteem they hold themselves in.

Also ignores that even if the woman does find him super attractive and want to fuck, social conditioning says she's a disgusting whore for feeling that way.

What I REALLY hate is when women store clerks whom I don't know from Adam call me "hon", "sweetie" or "babe."  I sympathize with women who have to put up with similar remarks.
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Dave on March 30, 2017, 07:41:48 PM
Think when men like that imagine being cat called, they imagine only super attractive women they actually want to fuck doing it. Which is mostly a reflection of the high esteem they hold themselves in.

Also ignores that even if the woman does find him super attractive and want to fuck, social conditioning says she's a disgusting whore for feeling that way.

What I REALLY hate is when women store clerks whom I don't know from Adam call me "hon", "sweetie" or "babe."  I sympathize with women who have to put up with similar remarks.
In England, especially, "Oop north", the common endearment is "love", or, "luv". In Lonfon it used to be "ducks", in Nottingham it's "m'duck", for either gender. Thinking about it it does not bother me at all and I often ssy, "Sorry love" if I bump into a woman. Better than, "Get out of the way you stupid cow!"

A female friend gets very wound up, when with other female friends, if the waiter (usually a young man) asks, "What can I get you guys?" A stiff lesson in English manners is what he gets! I just let it go over my head.

But, in the RAF and subsequently I came to assume a woman can do whatever job she has taken up and trained for as a career. I have had occasion to ask a woman taller than me for assistance, quite happily, the job bring more important than gender politics. The female engineeering lead at the docks could probably pick me up with one hand! Gotta respect that! Not going to offer to carry her toolbox for her... (Probably couldn't anyway.)
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on March 30, 2017, 09:58:28 PM
In England, especially, "Oop north", the common endearment is "love", or, "luv". In Lonfon it used to be "ducks", in Nottingham it's "m'duck", for either gender. Thinking about it it does not bother me at all and I often ssy, "Sorry love" if I bump into a woman. Better than, "Get out of the way you stupid cow!"

A female friend gets very wound up, when with other female friends, if the waiter (usually a young man) asks, "What can I get you guys?" A stiff lesson in English manners is what he gets! I just let it go over my head.

"Love" in England is probably a more longstanding expression that the "hon" or "sweetie" that women call strange men in convenience stores and fast food restaurants here.  That phenom started in my area  about 10-15 years ago.  It's only in a certain context, and I don't know why it upsets me so much.  Just that I don't care to engage with people at that level in that situation, I suppose.   
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Sandra Craft on March 30, 2017, 11:57:36 PM
. . .
I really don't think they would. I think they would get sick of it. I think they would get uncomfortable quite often. I'm sick of just trying to imagine myself into that kind of situation. I wonder then what they would think if someone told them that they should appreciate the attention they are sick of.

I mean, it's great that they seem to be trying to see things from the woman's perspective, I don't think they go far enough.

I think men also wouldn't like it if catcalling them was part of an overall social perception that reduced them purely to their sexual function.  That is changing, slowly, for women but it still cuts into the "enjoyment" of being catcalled.
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Arturo on March 31, 2017, 05:08:10 AM
Social Conditioning says men should fuck as many women as possible and women should only get one guy. But it's my experience that it's the opposite. I'm not sure how this works out unless one guy is hitting all the girls.

I've also become aware that the last two women who I've noticed that make it obvious they have a crush on me tend to be super nice about it. They inply their crushes heavily. Meanwhile there is another girl who would tell other people I looked good and they "gonna hit". If you can call this catcalling, I guess I don't really respond to it. I mean I like it but it's hard to get... what's the word... responsive to them? It's an awkward situation to be in because you don't want to hurt their feelings but at the same time you don't want to lie and say "okay, let's go out".

I find those people who go out with someone just for the sex to be detestable. They have horrible personalities and are generally rude to other people. On the other hand, I don't think sex is something that happens a lot for anyone. People have lives and teens are living with parents so that makes it hard. But maybe that's me.
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 08, 2018, 07:15:17 PM
A quote on stupidity:

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Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Dave on April 08, 2018, 07:26:30 PM
^
Be pretty stupid not to see sense in that.
Title: Re: The stupid, it burns.
Post by: Bad Penny II on April 09, 2018, 10:28:51 AM
^
Be pretty stupid not to see sense in that.

Yes but he was to clever for his own good.
Said that stuff to Nazis and got himself dead.