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Title: Science image dump
Post by: Claireliontamer on April 10, 2016, 02:58:28 PM
So we have the political, atheist and general one.  Why not have a science one too (especially as I can then steal them for school ;) )

(https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/s960x960/12967515_1165820720096427_1704881862746748496_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 10, 2016, 03:21:25 PM
Good idea! I'll sticky this topic. :)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Papasito Bruno on April 10, 2016, 03:42:36 PM
Good idea! I'll sticky this topic. :)

I agree wholeheartedly, and you've set the bar high with that awesome picture Claire, simply fantastic.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tank on April 10, 2016, 05:10:05 PM
The pale blue dot

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/7/73/20120203104140!Pale_Blue_Dot.png) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_Blue_Dot)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tank on April 10, 2016, 05:11:30 PM
Earth rise

(http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_feature/public/images/297755main_GPN-2001-000009_full.jpg?itok=qZTIuoYP)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tank on April 10, 2016, 05:14:30 PM
Trinity test.

(http://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2015/07/70-years-since-trinity-when-we-test/n22_57-089/main_900.jpg?1437073926)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tank on April 10, 2016, 05:17:56 PM
Smallpox virus

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0JmApS47T64/VRgOpcHDBQI/AAAAAAAAXmw/D3riHclbdBk/s1600/smallpox%2Bvirus.png)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tank on April 10, 2016, 05:20:37 PM
Tardigrade, False colour scanning electron microscope.

(http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1303/tardigrade_eyeofscience_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tank on April 10, 2016, 05:22:50 PM
The Hubble 'Deep Field' image. There are no stars in this picture, just galaxies. For as far as the Hubble can see.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Hubble_ultra_deep_field_high_rez_edit1.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tank on April 10, 2016, 05:45:34 PM
Pollen

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Misc_pollen.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tank on April 10, 2016, 06:00:39 PM
An ant

(http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/micro_11_14/m12_formicidae.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tank on April 10, 2016, 06:05:15 PM
The surface of Titan, the largest of Jupiter's moons.

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/200/media/images/73656000/jpg/_73656817_736003e6-6829-4529-ac72-bd2ecb173341.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: jumbojak on April 11, 2016, 05:44:50 AM
Pollen

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Misc_pollen.jpg)

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.... *sneezes*
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tank on April 11, 2016, 12:51:53 PM
(https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/13001226_10153467575020667_5734342155993399723_n.jpg?oh=d8314fdfbf0ef70f0acc27f9209a8809&oe=577EE26F)

Saturn’s beautiful rings form a striking feature, cutting across this image of two of the planet’s most intriguing moons. See http://www.esa.int/spaceinimages/Images/2016/04/Saturn_s_past_and_present_moons
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Guardian85 on April 11, 2016, 02:31:48 PM
Pollen

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Misc_pollen.jpg)
Scientific name: Itchus Bitchus.  >:(
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Guardian85 on April 11, 2016, 02:33:06 PM
Northern lights.
(http://www.ttv.is/static/files/Myndir1/aurora-borealis.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: joeactor on April 11, 2016, 11:30:56 PM
Great stuff all... Wish I had something to contribute.

... but I did use that pollen picture in a past blog post:
(http://www.joesdump.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/MicroChicken_Pollen-1024x779.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tank on April 13, 2016, 08:44:44 PM
An Air Force Test Pilot School T-38C passes in front of the sun at a supersonic speed, creating shockwaves that are caught photographically for research. (http://phys.org/news/2016-04-nasa-image-t-38c-front-sun.html)

(http://cdn.phys.org/newman/csz/news/800/2016/nasaimaget38.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tank on April 16, 2016, 05:58:06 AM
Another image that makes my mind boggle.

Quote

Mapping to Make Sense of Pluto

Today’s blog post is from Oliver White, a postdoctoral researcher in planetary science at NASA Ames Research Center in Mountain View, California. He studies the geomorphology and surface processes of planetary bodies in the outer solar system.

(https://blogs.nasa.gov/pluto/wp-content/uploads/sites/253/2016/04/GeologicalMap.jpg) (https://blogs.nasa.gov/pluto/2016/04/15/mapping-to-make-sense-of-pluto/)

Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Papasito Bruno on April 17, 2016, 05:45:11 AM
View of Alaska from the ISS.

(http://i.imgur.com/qMGCcRt.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Magdalena on April 20, 2016, 03:54:31 AM
Here's something you don't see everyday: Wringing out a wet towel in zero gravity.
(http://0.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/48/59/d8b7732b094287e682e231d9787cb073-wringing-out-a-towel-in-zero-gravity.gif)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on June 22, 2016, 12:49:52 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/13466357_10153889575927917_8827143730994259160_n.jpg?oh=ea4b9f607b838cd86126422b54480c88&oe=57C41B82&__gda__=1474605451_7813c243d943dcfe7298f3f6f9ac1efc)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tank on July 30, 2016, 11:22:44 AM
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21203_1620321634865900_1954840604149802805_n.jpg?oh=ef96a83ccf5938bb371c4df371674d35&oe=58131F00)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on July 30, 2016, 11:24:55 AM
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21203_1620321634865900_1954840604149802805_n.jpg?oh=ef96a83ccf5938bb371c4df371674d35&oe=58131F00)
Yup!

But it ruins the old "joke:" "We all sprung from apes - but you did not spring far enough!"
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on August 04, 2016, 08:57:13 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13901606_967674216678520_4465840779394960715_n.jpg?oh=61d458fee4257345b53e5f407b93898c&oe=58141732)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: joeactor on August 04, 2016, 09:03:26 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13901606_967674216678520_4465840779394960715_n.jpg?oh=61d458fee4257345b53e5f407b93898c&oe=58141732)

Where's Gamera when you need him!?!?!
(glad they're all tiny)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on August 04, 2016, 11:47:31 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13891854_966208523491756_1796183225406863982_n.jpg?oh=e7c3c250e62b5b52d520f38c4d4cb130&oe=58293D12)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tank on August 07, 2016, 09:27:28 AM
1,000 pictures of Mars. (http://www.uahirise.org/releases/aug2016/index.php?page=1)

(http://static.uahirise.org/images/2016/details/ESP_046200_1410.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on August 07, 2016, 10:04:27 AM
Inspired by Tank's offering some (too early in the morning) thoughts came to me about the "survival" of craters and that either the Martians ones are late or there has been a lot less "weathering" there than on eatth. Less weathering implies less weather there - far less atmophere for a very long time?

Then I looked for known craters on Earth and their ages. (http://www.wired.com/2009/08/impactcraters/)

(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/DaveGlos/Mobile%20Uploads/impact_lonar1a.jpg) (http://s778.photobucket.com/user/DaveGlos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/impact_lonar1a.jpg.html)

There are probably traces of smaller ones as well.

Here's a map. (http://www.psi.edu/epo/explorecraters/background.htm)

(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/DaveGlos/Mobile%20Uploads/crater_map_22.jpg) (http://s778.photobucket.com/user/DaveGlos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/crater_map_22.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: joeactor on August 07, 2016, 02:57:05 PM
Two beautiful planets... Thanks Tank and Gloucester!
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tank on September 10, 2016, 02:59:53 PM
X-ray of the head of a hammer head shark.

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10847903_748045318594413_7389040096002113775_n.jpg?oh=45de40840aaf925d272ce3992dd84ac0&oe=58774B4B)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: joeactor on September 10, 2016, 03:05:22 PM
^^^ Whoa! cool one...
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 18, 2016, 01:27:18 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15492313_1095807610531846_6956076045921507878_n.jpg?oh=5dff03c71dbfcb5faa716c31ef1635f6&oe=58AF9F81)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 24, 2017, 11:44:20 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16194988_1126338674145406_3059506010399204887_n.jpg?oh=13a41f6d6abace6adff0a4f9ff7c6ff6&oe=590CA596)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on January 25, 2017, 08:25:56 AM
(https://scontent.fpoa4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16194988_1126338674145406_3059506010399204887_n.jpg?oh=13a41f6d6abace6adff0a4f9ff7c6ff6&oe=590CA596)
Fascinating!
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 25, 2017, 07:28:54 PM
^It's cool, isn't it? :grin:
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Davin on January 25, 2017, 08:47:38 PM
It's amazingly informative. I like how it shows about how much comes from which source when there is more than one source.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on February 02, 2017, 01:16:36 AM
(https://scontent.fpoa4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16387896_1852752271661486_5360238231288311513_n.png?oh=e2ecb71424f9e21ab2492ee60c1a1296&oe=59156AB7)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: joeactor on February 02, 2017, 09:45:04 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16387896_1852752271661486_5360238231288311513_n.png?oh=e2ecb71424f9e21ab2492ee60c1a1296&oe=59156AB7)

Pretty cool - amazing to see they're all related.

I wonder how much was human intervention, and how much was already kind of in the works when we found the plants...
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on February 03, 2017, 02:53:25 PM
Yeah, me too.  :scratch:

I would guess it's mostly artificial selection, much like what happened to bananas, watermelons and some crops. Kind of cool to see all that genetic plasticity is present in a species.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Icarus on February 06, 2017, 12:43:07 AM
This one is sciency and also fun to watch......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uENITui5_jU&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on February 06, 2017, 12:51:14 AM
^That is really cool!  8)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on February 06, 2017, 08:09:26 AM
^  Yeah!
A modulated free-flow system. Momentum rules, OK!?

Betcha the volume was high . . . Too noisy for a garden water feature. But, with an appropriate drive coil, enough Watts and no speaker diaphragm . . . Hmmm.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Icarus on March 31, 2017, 01:51:47 AM
http://spaceweathergallery.com/comet_gallery.html   Cool comets and other mysterious stuff. Must be God playing dice.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: joeactor on March 31, 2017, 02:00:07 AM
http://spaceweathergallery.com/comet_gallery.html   Cool comets and other mysterious stuff. Must be God playing dice.

Cool... bookmarked!
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 25, 2017, 11:52:44 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18156856_1220451164734156_7261642942554057151_n.png?oh=1c045fc5cb47bd255feb7e0636e85d68&oe=598AB9C7)

It needs to be said:

(https://scontent.fpoa4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18058153_1502973869721376_5345393461117179696_n.jpg?oh=ebbb939da3ce65b06aa066137282b3ff&oe=599759F7)

Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Icarus on April 26, 2017, 07:04:15 AM
^   8)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Papasito Bruno on May 03, 2017, 03:10:12 PM
This is so cool, guy lost his left arm and has it replaced with a robotic prosthetic...apparently he can preset the arm to complete simple, automatic functions.

Awesome huh?

(http://i.imgur.com/kjC5ghP.gif)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tank on May 03, 2017, 07:21:03 PM
This is so cool, guy lost his left arm and has it replaced with a robotic prosthetic...apparently he can preset the arm to complete simple, automatic functions.

Awesome huh?

(http://i.imgur.com/kjC5ghP.gif)

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Arturo on May 03, 2017, 10:04:19 PM
So he's a lefty...
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Recusant on May 15, 2017, 11:37:13 AM
There are those who like a bit of the strange now and then, as they say.

Anyway, back to science images--

It's a sort of tie-dyed image of the Crab Nebula (https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/details.php?id=PIA21474). The colors are artificial; each of five different hues in the image of the nebula represent what is seen through five different telescopes. Far out, man!

(https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/images/largesize/PIA21474_hires.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Papasito Bruno on May 17, 2017, 02:49:43 PM
There are those who like a bit of the strange now and then, as they say.

Anyway, back to science images--

It's a sort of tie-dyed image of the Crab Nebula (https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/details.php?id=PIA21474). The colors are artificial; each of five different hues in the image of the nebula represent what is seen through five different telescopes. Far out, man!

(https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/images/largesize/PIA21474_hires.jpg)

Love that, have made it my desktop screen on my laptop...gracias amigo!


I really like this sign, it is after all an awesome scientific image.

(http://i.imgur.com/bRgnDQC.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 19, 2017, 01:24:34 AM
(http://tabletopwhale.com/img/posts/17-05-17.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on May 19, 2017, 06:48:09 AM
^ More power to the molecule!
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tank on May 19, 2017, 06:58:57 AM
Have you got a link to the site that image came from?
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 19, 2017, 01:26:00 PM
Have you got a link to the site that image came from?


http://tabletopwhale.com/ (http://tabletopwhale.com/)

Enjoy :grin:
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Papasito Bruno on May 19, 2017, 03:17:48 PM
(http://tabletopwhale.com/img/posts/17-05-17.jpg)

Ooooh pretty, so pretty, colors and lights...Ok, so can someone explain to me what I'm looking at here? 8) (For a minute I thought it was a battle map of "Y Fighters". ;D
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Claireliontamer on May 19, 2017, 05:12:53 PM
(http://tabletopwhale.com/img/posts/17-05-17.jpg)

Ooooh pretty, so pretty, colors and lights...Ok, so can someone explain to me what I'm looking at here? 8) (For a minute I thought it was a battle map of "Y Fighters". ;D

It is a map of our metabolic reactions, in particular how we get energy (ATP).  I once knew all those as had to remember them for an A Level Biology exam.  The stupid things we have to commit to memory for exams when in the real world we can just look them up!
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: hermes2015 on May 20, 2017, 06:11:08 AM
.....  The stupid things we have to commit to memory for exams when in the real world we can just look them up!

That is one reason why I became an organic chemist. Organic chemistry is very mechanistic, so one only has to remember a few basic principles. One basic principle is how electrons behave and move around. That allows you to figure out what will happen in any reaction, without the need to remember recipes. It's like playing chess: learn a few basic rules and you can start playing. But then creativity kicks in and some people become great chemists, while others don't.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 25, 2017, 03:30:58 AM
(https://scontent.fpoa4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18582442_1687176597962330_1690020399128410861_n.jpg?oh=4b4e8665895763ad7df631dd62d14814&oe=59A55E71)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 25, 2017, 03:58:36 AM
It is a map of our metabolic reactions, in particular how we get energy (ATP).  I once knew all those as had to remember them for an A Level Biology exam.  The stupid things we have to commit to memory for exams when in the real world we can just look them up!

Yes, I had to learn most of them as well, especially the citric acid cycle (formerly known as Kreb's cycle) only to forget them just as I walked out the door.

Funny fact: the Krebs bicycle (the Citric Acid and Urea cycles) got translated into "bicicleta de Krebs", which is not bi-cycle as in two cycles but as in the two wheeled bicycle.:suspicious: I think that name even appeared in Lehninger Biochemistry textbooks up to the 3rd edition until it was eventually corrected.   

There's even a fricken' wiki entry (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicicleta_de_Krebs) for it!


Translation FAIL
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Papasito Bruno on June 05, 2017, 03:22:26 PM
(http://tabletopwhale.com/img/posts/17-05-17.jpg)

Ooooh pretty, so pretty, colors and lights...Ok, so can someone explain to me what I'm looking at here? 8) (For a minute I thought it was a battle map of "Y Fighters". ;D

It is a map of our metabolic reactions, in particular how we get energy (ATP).  I once knew all those as had to remember them for an A Level Biology exam.  The stupid things we have to commit to memory for exams when in the real world we can just look them up!

Thanks, but I'm still going to go with the Star Wars "Y" Fighter battle plan.... 8)
(https://scontent.fpoa4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18582442_1687176597962330_1690020399128410861_n.jpg?oh=4b4e8665895763ad7df631dd62d14814&oe=59A55E71)

Thanks for posting this, I like having it all in one place...(Printed this out, and put in on the side of my fridge)

(http://i.imgur.com/B3GDIav.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/UewyORE.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Davin on June 05, 2017, 04:13:28 PM
I'm sure it's been posted here before, but I like it:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4036/4254681996_27b1ed7ff0.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Claireliontamer on June 17, 2017, 05:01:23 PM
(https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/p960x960/19221578_1381675581925515_7006818045148144271_o.png?oh=fbd69dc61455472e6f79dd7ef12c51e9&oe=59E70C29)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on June 17, 2017, 05:21:22 PM
"Know your crocodilians"

(OK. Just not too intimately... :shocked:)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Claireliontamer on June 20, 2017, 01:28:08 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cc4DzzVUkAErJ-F.jpg:large)

I had no idea geese had such long lives.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Davin on June 20, 2017, 03:48:47 PM
I had no idea that earthworms live for so long.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on June 20, 2017, 04:45:38 PM
I am surprised chickens live thst long - guess those are ones that escape the pot!

They could have had carp at about 70, that was the age of one in London Zoo IIRC. Seems one koi variety can possibly live to 100 in captivity. Just hope carp don't get bored...
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on June 26, 2017, 12:14:27 AM
(https://scontent.fpoa4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19260758_1596670197018714_973614729111403154_n.jpg?oh=bbe20edf12e247cb6d74da1f9200a7de&oe=59D72F1D)

Don't slip.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Icarus on June 26, 2017, 10:10:44 PM
^  :cleaning:
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Papasito Bruno on June 27, 2017, 03:33:26 PM
I love that^^^^ ;D


(http://i.imgur.com/founvU0.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Icarus on July 01, 2017, 12:08:04 AM
^  :snicker: :rofl:
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 07, 2017, 09:58:12 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19554406_1074612509340872_3037730014162063716_n.png?oh=1d56143283de64c1cdbc3c8aa39d4d06&oe=5A0FC1FF)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 11, 2017, 03:56:58 AM
(https://scontent.fpoa4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19702180_242448956249509_3856461325657059965_n.jpg?oh=d706eb60c98d1dfd55cf0d5d6e4fa2ee&oe=59CC2B38)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Icarus on July 14, 2017, 01:07:44 AM
Thank you Silver. I have wondered what a chromosome looked like. Now I know that they look like elemental teddy bears.

Where else would we be able to see chromosomes, except on HAF?   
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 14, 2017, 01:14:20 AM
"Elemental teddy bears"? :lol: I just don't see it. They look like X's and V's to me...

Each one is a molecule of DNA with proteins that give the molecule stability. Pretty cool. 
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Arturo on July 14, 2017, 02:37:48 AM
It looks like cereal.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: joeactor on July 30, 2017, 02:42:17 PM
(https://i0.wp.com/latestabenfatta.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/a-world-of-languages.png)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on July 30, 2017, 03:29:08 PM
Interesting plot, Joe. Wondering what date if that it is, the UK population is higher than that currently. Though I will have to admit to my London ears I am not all all sure that those oop north actually speak the native tongue!

Over i billion English speakers if you include all those countries where it is an official alternative language, like India with its hudreds of regional languages.

Fascinating subject, my main 2005 college research project was on the future of English - which will probably turn out to be "Englishes" - as the true lingua franca. Gets all wrapped up in economics - which are not following the path predicted before 2008 . . . But it is still the language of the air and sea transport industries, plus the Internet of course. All of which the French absolutely detest (heh, heh, beh  :devil:)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tom62 on July 30, 2017, 04:07:29 PM
Interesting, but why isn't Austria listed under German?
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Claireliontamer on July 30, 2017, 04:15:48 PM
Though I will have to admit to my London ears I am not all all sure that those oop north actually speak the native tongue!

Shush yourself!
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Arturo on July 30, 2017, 04:29:06 PM
What is that picture representing?
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on July 30, 2017, 04:57:21 PM
Though I will have to admit to my London ears I am not all all sure that those oop north actually speak the native tongue!

Shush yourself!

Heh!

Actually many northern accents and dialects are probably closer to original English than what we soft, Latin and Norman French contaminated, sootheners speak. Except for the Scots of course :couchhide: 
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: hermes2015 on July 30, 2017, 05:57:42 PM
Interesting, but why isn't Austria listed under German?

Yes, that is strange. I see there is a little + in the corner, so I assume it expands in the original.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on July 30, 2017, 06:24:53 PM
Interesting, but why isn't Austria listed under German?

Yes, that is strange. I see there is a little + in the corner, so I assume it expands in the original.

Tried to find the original. Loads of links to Spsnish sites but none contain the graphic where I looked.

Not sure about the maths because we don't know the age of the graphic. In round numbers Austria had 9 million last year. From 78 subtract Germany's 70 and say 1 for the other two leaves 7 million - not quite enough but . . ..

Bad graphic proofing or summat.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 31, 2017, 01:28:57 AM
Interesting, but why isn't Austria listed under German?

Whoops! :snicker:
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 31, 2017, 01:31:43 AM
What is that picture representing?

I think it's number of speakers (in millions) for each of the languages.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: joeactor on August 01, 2017, 08:57:13 PM
What is that picture representing?

It's a proportional pie chart of sorts showing how prevalent each language is in the world.

Here's a link to the full-size version:
https://i0.wp.com/latestabenfatta.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/a-world-of-languages.png (https://i0.wp.com/latestabenfatta.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/a-world-of-languages.png)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on August 01, 2017, 09:10:42 PM
What is that picture representing?

It's a proportional pie chart of sorts showing how prevalent each language is in the world.

Here's a link to the full-size version:
https://i0.wp.com/latestabenfatta.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/a-world-of-languages.png (https://i0.wp.com/latestabenfatta.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/a-world-of-languages.png)

From that image I notice there are more segments marked "+", some quite large, with no explaination. So, looking at the labelled segments one wonders why Austria's 9 million, not insignificant, does not get its own bit.

Though, knowing the original date, one can check the figures in general but can one trust the whole thing enough to quote it if it leaves data out?
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on August 01, 2017, 10:36:02 PM
What is that picture representing?

It's a proportional pie chart of sorts showing how prevalent each language is in the world.

Here's a link to the full-size version:
https://i0.wp.com/latestabenfatta.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/a-world-of-languages.png (https://i0.wp.com/latestabenfatta.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/a-world-of-languages.png)

From that image I notice there are more segments marked "+", some quite large, with no explaination. So, looking at the labelled segments one wonders why Austria's 9 million, not insignificant, does not get its own bit.

Though, knowing the original date, one can check the figures in general but can one trust the whole thing enough to quote it if it leaves data out?

Maybe the person who made that doesn't like Austria.  :rimshot:
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Icarus on August 02, 2017, 12:43:58 AM
Maybe the Asmo made that. I do not see Luxembourg language there. Egad... is he angry with the Austrians too?
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Papasito Bruno on August 03, 2017, 07:14:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/UZms135.jpg)

I like the casual-dehyde 8)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: joeactor on August 03, 2017, 07:59:39 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/UZms135.jpg)

I like the casual-dehyde 8)

 :o ;D
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on August 03, 2017, 08:10:44 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/UZms135.jpg)

I like the casual-dehyde 8)

Excellent!
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on August 03, 2017, 09:37:45 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/qB9nBV9.jpg)

Cosmologists produce new maps of dark matter dynamics (https://phys.org/news/2017-07-cosmologists-dark-dynamics.html)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on August 30, 2017, 11:49:00 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20638528_1928375900769360_3709144544279695493_n.jpg?oh=8b7bc811f618a255b8e7d740c50fd907&oe=5A2A0713)

Microscopic view of the foot of a beetle
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Arturo on August 31, 2017, 01:09:27 AM
I thoughy that was a peacock feather.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: joeactor on August 31, 2017, 01:10:40 AM
Whoa! Beetle Foot!!!

Here's another from the same competition:
Leaves of Selaginella (lesser club moss) (40x)
(http://www.nikonsmallworld.com/images/galleries/2016/main/31857-maitland-Selaginella.jpg)

... and more here:
http://www.nikonsmallworld.com/galleries/photo (http://www.nikonsmallworld.com/galleries/photo)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on August 31, 2017, 05:12:52 PM
What is the worlds smallest wasp?

(http://i.imgur.com/Hj0SWdN.gif)

Shown, at the same scale, next at a paraamecium and an amoeba.

Thus little bug lays its eggs inside the egg of another insect, the thrip. Thrips can be as small as 0.5 - 1mm, so their eggs are minute.

Called Megaphragma mymaripenne sounds like it is a tad misnamed!

Not much danger about this one attacking your jello sandwiches at the picnic!

And here's the world's largest wasp

(http://i.imgur.com/ljhwbZH.jpg)

But your sarnies are still safe, this one's name includes its favourite lunch, it's the tarantula hawk wasp.

Several thousand species in between.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on September 01, 2017, 12:24:10 AM
Cool images.  8)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on September 11, 2017, 11:35:00 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21369289_1656645144354237_5935048305637491847_n.jpg?oh=0ab10bcd87f12054ce449c8889748375&oe=5A4E061F)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on September 14, 2017, 04:51:46 PM
We think Irma was big, this is the stormy "hexagon" at Saturn's north pole - it could swallow the whole Earth!
(https://i.imgur.com/XyFi23o.jpg)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn%27s_hexagon
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tank on September 14, 2017, 05:16:58 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20638528_1928375900769360_3709144544279695493_n.jpg?oh=8b7bc811f618a255b8e7d740c50fd907&oe=5A2A0713)

Microscopic view of the foot of a beetle
John, Paul, George or Ringo?
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: No one on September 14, 2017, 05:20:09 PM
Pete best tank, Pete best.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: hermes2015 on September 14, 2017, 05:49:13 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20638528_1928375900769360_3709144544279695493_n.jpg?oh=8b7bc811f618a255b8e7d740c50fd907&oe=5A2A0713)

Microscopic view of the foot of a beetle
John, Paul, George or Ringo?

Reminds me most of the psychedelic portrait that Richard Avedon took of John Lennon.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tank on September 14, 2017, 06:07:54 PM
Pete best tank, Pete best.
10/10 for geek of the day comment!  :grin:
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on September 14, 2017, 08:18:51 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20638528_1928375900769360_3709144544279695493_n.jpg?oh=8b7bc811f618a255b8e7d740c50fd907&oe=5A2A0713)

Microscopic view of the foot of a beetle
John, Paul, George or Ringo?

:picard facepalm:

:lol:
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Papasito Bruno on September 19, 2017, 02:14:35 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20638528_1928375900769360_3709144544279695493_n.jpg?oh=8b7bc811f618a255b8e7d740c50fd907&oe=5A2A0713)

Microscopic view of the foot of a beetle
John, Paul, George or Ringo?

That was good Tank!


In case you ever wondered at the science behind heavier-than-air flight!

(https://i.imgur.com/KPl9LzO.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Papasito Bruno on September 27, 2017, 05:25:43 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/LYsLWHL.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on September 27, 2017, 09:46:13 PM
^So true. :tellmemore:

:grin:
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: No one on September 27, 2017, 10:00:05 PM
Hold your horses there folks, there are plenty of creationists who manage to survive just fine without a brain.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Papasito Bruno on September 30, 2017, 07:10:38 PM
I want one of these t-shirts, I just love this!  ;D


(https://i.imgur.com/daclXhg.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on October 01, 2017, 02:28:59 AM
^ Love that!
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on October 16, 2017, 12:37:29 AM
(https://scontent.fpoa13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22406435_860584660785561_1072723132025741873_n.jpg?oh=5bb49a092b2aac327855d944ed8d5a10&oe=5A6F2DC9)

 :eeew:
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on October 16, 2017, 12:38:44 AM
How FedEx trucks are made.

(https://scontent.fpoa13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22519320_1381900038589267_2492758169061278896_n.jpg?oh=1e1e8e1da9e029a0e5dc79a3fc557ffe&oe=5A402A3C)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Magdalena on October 16, 2017, 01:32:19 AM
(https://scontent.fpoa13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22406435_860584660785561_1072723132025741873_n.jpg?oh=5bb49a092b2aac327855d944ed8d5a10&oe=5A6F2DC9)

 :eeew:
Nasty!
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on October 16, 2017, 07:12:37 AM
I always imagined tape worm heads to be more like those of the Dunian Shai Hulud, just a hole surrounded with teeth! This one looks like it has eyes, (or nostrils).
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on October 22, 2017, 04:41:47 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22552365_1388126404633297_2964829000229757289_n.jpg?oh=bf02b1844645a5b27ff702c13e917b6c&oe=5A864D2A)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Recusant on October 22, 2017, 09:55:02 PM
I always imagined tape worm heads to be more like those of the Dunian Shai Hulud, just a hole surrounded with teeth! This one looks like it has eyes, (or nostrils).

Those are suckers that I assume the little monster uses to hold itself in the intestines.

(http://tapewormmartin.weebly.com/uploads/2/6/9/0/26904001/2037306.png)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on October 25, 2017, 12:50:16 AM
(https://scontent.fpoa13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22688010_1182984518499243_4288337765751012098_n.jpg?oh=f90bad22c063f0ea35d99ff72357a4c7&oe=5A82EFBD)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: joeactor on October 25, 2017, 08:14:52 PM
Cool chart...
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Papasito Bruno on November 03, 2017, 01:13:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/lHobnza.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Papasito Bruno on December 02, 2017, 02:25:17 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZC0AVL3.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Papasito Bruno on December 08, 2017, 09:15:01 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/x2ChVyk.jpg)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 03, 2018, 09:49:57 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26112494_1786481191370946_6499816573506645844_n.jpg?oh=c806f0fdf5c359d91acb180442e6197d&oe=5AF62A5C)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 18, 2018, 12:04:18 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26814598_1237060763091618_5199851274905688289_n.jpg?oh=1c8812087d66e08bc1d58cf25e9bb20f&oe=5AF3A17D)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: No one on January 18, 2018, 12:13:04 PM
(http://theplastichippo.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/cry.jpg)

Tears of a Clown
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 18, 2018, 07:48:54 PM
^ like a crocodile's?
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: joeactor on January 18, 2018, 08:36:57 PM
Not tears, but it is a drop (Prince Rupert's that is...)

(http://img.izismile.com/img/img9/20160624/1000/mindblowing_properties_of_prince_ruperts_drops_01.gif)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Magdalena on January 18, 2018, 10:07:32 PM
Not tears, but it is a drop (Prince Rupert's that is...)

(http://img.izismile.com/img/img9/20160624/1000/mindblowing_properties_of_prince_ruperts_drops_01.gif)
What is this?
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 18, 2018, 10:42:39 PM
Not tears, but it is a drop (Prince Rupert's that is...)

(http://img.izismile.com/img/img9/20160624/1000/mindblowing_properties_of_prince_ruperts_drops_01.gif)
What is this?

I don't know what it it, but it's beautiful. :tellmemore:
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: joeactor on January 19, 2018, 12:16:57 AM
Not tears, but it is a drop (Prince Rupert's that is...)

(http://img.izismile.com/img/img9/20160624/1000/mindblowing_properties_of_prince_ruperts_drops_01.gif)

It's made of glass. Called a "Prince Rupert's Drop", and has some amazing properties - more here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Rupert%27s_Drop (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Rupert%27s_Drop)

... and a great video here:
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Magdalena on January 19, 2018, 04:47:51 AM
^^^
~That's so cool.  8)
Thanks for sharing it, joeactor.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on January 19, 2018, 07:58:20 AM
For the science bit: the sudden cooling and hardening of the glass from the outside causes  stresses inside, things like glass shrink as they cool, but the inside can't. That sudden cooling toughens the glass, so withstanding hammer blows, but the tail is still fragile. So if the tail's tough skin is broken those stresses relax in a wave front through the drop.

Pretty sure the shattering effect of a toughened glass car windcreen is the same. A centre punch breaking the skin anywhere causes the whole thing to shatter.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 20, 2018, 12:48:03 PM
Well, you learn something new every day! :grin:
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 20, 2018, 12:48:25 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26992448_1481972685248668_8293824622021694499_n.png?oh=cf381f5bcd5a06169dfa57b17c1eb8a2&oe=5AF905B1)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tank on January 20, 2018, 04:28:01 PM
 :rofl:
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 21, 2018, 02:45:39 PM
Thought this was a cool pic:

(https://scontent.fpoa13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26907109_1244792858953492_5608203375336368370_n.jpg?oh=a654d7679440b0a7462441997e6b3042&oe=5AE57E88)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on January 21, 2018, 02:58:34 PM
Thought this was a cool pic:

(https://scontent.fpoa13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26907109_1244792858953492_5608203375336368370_n.jpg?oh=a654d7679440b0a7462441997e6b3042&oe=5AE57E88)

Might frame that for my fun wall!
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on January 22, 2018, 12:21:46 PM
Linking science to everday life has been mentioned elsewhere, here is a map that links scientists to scientists. It's a bit complex, start in the top right for a bit of almost instant gratification:

(https://imgur.com/laQXxRI.jpg)

http://www.crispian.net/CrispiansScienceMap.html

[This is the latest version]

http://crispian-jago.blogspot.co.uk
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Tank on January 22, 2018, 12:36:45 PM
That is clever.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 22, 2018, 03:26:58 PM
Linking science to everday life has been mentioned elsewhere, here is a map that links scientists to scientists. It's a bit complex, start in the top right for a bit of almost instant gratification:

(https://imgur.com/laQXxRI.jpg)

http://www.crispian.net/CrispiansScienceMap.html

[This is the latest version]

http://crispian-jago.blogspot.co.uk

That is really cool. I can only imagine how much time and energy went into researching that and putting that chart together.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on March 08, 2018, 09:25:04 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28783278_965491406952385_8805878452356907008_n.jpg?oh=5a6f36129c1b965d9170404540248c20&oe=5B012B2A)
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: joeactor on March 08, 2018, 10:10:34 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28783278_965491406952385_8805878452356907008_n.jpg?oh=5a6f36129c1b965d9170404540248c20&oe=5B012B2A)

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on March 08, 2018, 10:19:36 PM
Aw...
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Magdalena on March 08, 2018, 10:58:31 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28783278_965491406952385_8805878452356907008_n.jpg?oh=5a6f36129c1b965d9170404540248c20&oe=5B012B2A)
How cute! Happy Grass Cells... :tellmemore:
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on March 24, 2018, 03:03:17 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29543154_1619737294807947_4813110711775395840_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=79eb7434fdd8c665eb782990b7208abb&oe=5B71B893)

Fungi art.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on March 24, 2018, 03:59:02 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29512343_1875581712460893_7325386960384557056_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeFPynOE_rqH98PyUresaMSuss_gs9FjlFf2kdqKd0-kpOujgx9DnDlaOv3KdTS0NMXAAJWHd7CKbTzjGW2Esyv4QLnH3axQqEvQL-vTvARTmQ&oh=1a240a7026c3e6548659f3647aaf9012&oe=5B42EAF8)

Erythrocyte = red blood cell.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on March 24, 2018, 04:25:03 PM
Damn small them capillaries. But amazing how many bloody erythrocites can squeeze their way out of them when you get subcutaneous haematomas!
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on March 25, 2018, 03:04:07 PM
Damn small them capillaries. But amazing how many bloody erythrocites can squeeze their way out of them when you get subcutaneous haematomas!

Do you take blood thinners?
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on March 25, 2018, 03:33:27 PM
Damn small them capillaries. But amazing how many bloody erythrocites can squeeze their way out of them when you get subcutaneous haematomas!

Do you take blood thinners?

Yes, warfarin. That was no real problem at first (2005), I seem lucky in that I still do not bruise easily nor bleed for long from cuts. Keeps the medics guessing but so long as my INR is near optimum they give up.

Then they restarted me on aspirin about four years ago, after telling me in no way ever take the stuff with warfarin. The sub-cute bleeding started about two years later. It is not due to impact of any kind, they just appear then fade. The skin over them seems very thin and delicate, can't use any adhesive dressing near them, if the skin tears or breaks they ooze blood. I cut the ankle bits off a couple of socks (good use for ones with a hole in the toe) and use those to hold non-adherent dressings in place. The are, of course, washable and resusable and look nicer than tubular bandage. Got some colourful sci-fi socks I might use in future!

No-one seems really bothered by it, nor me providing it only happens on my fore-arms. Don't really want it on my brain!

Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on March 25, 2018, 04:33:28 PM
My grandfather takes the same, and he has the same subcutaneous bleeding as you described. If he as much as lightly scraps his arm against a wall the skin breaks and bleeds. 
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on March 25, 2018, 04:55:04 PM
My grandfather takes the same, and he has the same subcutaneous bleeding as you described. If he as much as lightly scraps his arm against a wall the skin breaks and bleeds.

I don't need scrapings or such - I do it all on my own! I have actually tried to cause them with small impacts or abrasions. No result, even a good, hard scratching with my nails invokes no brownish red splodges. Just sore skin.

Sometimes being inquistive can be a pain . . .
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on March 25, 2018, 04:55:56 PM
Sometimes being inquistive can be a pain . . .

Literally! ;D
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Icarus on March 25, 2018, 11:06:21 PM
Do all we old folks have similar symptoms?   If I bang my self into a doorknob or whatever I get an immediate dark spot under my  skin....a hematoma I think it is called. Add that we are often cursed with Ichthyosis Vulgaris or thin scaly skin and we know that the grim reaper is stalking us. 
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: hermes2015 on March 26, 2018, 05:02:29 AM
Do all we old folks have similar symptoms?   If I bang my self into a doorknob or whatever I get an immediate dark spot under my  skin....a hematoma I think it is called. Add that we are often cursed with Ichthyosis Vulgaris or thin scaly skin and we know that the grim reaper is stalking us.

I have been quite lucky so far and don't have a skin that is overly sensitive to knocks and abrasion. In fact, I seem to heal very quickly from cuts, which I hope will stand me in good stead when I have my hip replacement in May.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 28, 2018, 05:31:00 PM
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Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Bad Penny II on April 28, 2018, 06:51:44 PM
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Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Arturo on April 29, 2018, 02:28:40 AM
Well I was interested in this post because apparently the observable universe is individual to each person. So in fact it could be that both of them are correct. The way the brain interprets it's data is based on previous data that it has collected. At least according to the neruoscientists that I have heard speak of these things.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: joeactor on April 29, 2018, 02:33:27 PM
Well I was interested in this post because apparently the observable universe is individual to each person. So in fact it could be that both of them are correct. The way the brain interprets it's data is based on previous data that it has collected. At least according to the neruoscientists that I have heard speak of these things.

Also, from an evolutionary standpoint, which view works better for you in the real world?

In the short term, and for any given individual, belief may outperform facts.

... until  you try to fly by jumping off a cliff. Then the facts usually win.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Dave on April 29, 2018, 02:48:07 PM
. . . The way the brain interprets it's data is based on previous data that it has collected..

And that is the way indoctrination, brainwashing etc works. Stuff rubbish into the developing mind - without teaching critical thinking at the same time - and you end up with prejuduce, bigotry, narcisism, egomania, meglomania and, maybe, paranoia.

Hang on, that list seems to remind me of some guy who keeps getting into the news . . .
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 29, 2018, 05:07:12 PM
Once again Deepak Chopra's assertion just looks like a string of words that sound like they're conveying some deep insight, but doesn't really make sense. What the hell does he mean? Consciousness is a substance? A divine substance? So...quarks and leptons are made of consciousness? What on earth is he talking about?!
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Arturo on April 29, 2018, 06:00:13 PM
Once again Deepak Chopra's assertion just looks like a string of words that sound like they're conveying some deep insight, but doesn't really make sense. What the hell does he mean? Consciousness is a substance? A divine substance? So...quarks and leptons are made of consciousness? What on earth is he talking about?!

Ambiguous at best if looking at merely objectively.

Or what I just said in my previous if using one's brain as it has been developed.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Davin on April 30, 2018, 04:17:39 PM
How one perceives the universe is not the same thing as what the universe is made up of. We know that the universe is not made up light waves, but what we are seeing is light waves and not the objects themselves. A dog is not it's bark even though hearing a bark might be all that we can perceive about a dog. Likewise with the other senses and including thoughts and memories. A memory of a person is not the same as the person.

Consciousness is not in any way a substance, any more than a software application is a hard drive.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Arturo on April 30, 2018, 06:35:24 PM
How one perceives the universe is not the same thing as what the universe is made up of.

Right and that's exactly where the idea lies. As I am writing this, the HAF website looks like a grayish-blue to me. But how do I know that my grayish-blue is the same as your grayish-blue?

We are all looking at the universe through a lenses that is based on our previous experiences. There is a TED talk I watched on this a little while ago let me see if I can find it.

The point I am trying to get across is this quote from the video
"Perception is the brain's best guess of what's out there"
So from what I can tell about that is that there is no guarantee that whatever you experience is real or accurate. We could all be in a big void for all we know. Or in the matrix. But we don't know that so there is no point of dwelling on it unless you are schizophrenic or obsessed with the idea in some way.

I've been through this line of thought years ago and I came to the conclusion that yeah it might not be real, for all I can tell this video gives me more evidence that it could all not be real. But I do experience it. And that is the reality I am in so I might as well enjoy it. So what is "really" the universe is just your brain's best guess of what the universe is. It's your brain that is telling you what the universe is. And your brain is just guessing at what it is. There is no guarantee that the brain is even correct in what it's telling you.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Davin on April 30, 2018, 08:13:55 PM
How one perceives the universe is not the same thing as what the universe is made up of.

Right and that's exactly where the idea lies. As I am writing this, the HAF website looks like a grayish-blue to me. But how do I know that my grayish-blue is the same as your grayish-blue?
It is not, but that does not matter. What I codified to the area of the light spectrum that we identify as blue, doesn't actually matter if you codify is as something different. It's like having to different database systems talking to each other. What specific id you place on the "blue" record, let's say it's 12, doesn't have to match the same id I place on my "blue" record, let's say it's 7. We have a translation to make the color less subjective by using common language. When you say "blue" I identify it as 7, and when I say "blue", you identify it as 12. They don't have to have the same exact id in both systems.

We can objectively test where the color falls on the light spectrum because the color itself is not subjective, what is subjective is how our individual brains codify it.

(http://media.factmyth.com/2016/07/visible-spectrum-of-light.jpg)

Blue is that there on the left. It will be there for everyone with the ability to perceive blue.

Boltzmann Brains (the concept presented that I could just be a brain floating in space pretending to be experiencing a universe), are not something new, but it's easy to disprove. The universe as it began, is far less complicated than a brain popping into existence out of the chaos. Therefore, on an infinite time scale, our universe would happen far more often than brains with the ability to hallucinate a simulation like we are experiencing.

And we all agree that there is often something wrong with our perceptions, that's why we follow the scientific method, which over time corrects for that problem.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Arturo on April 30, 2018, 11:17:29 PM
^^Right. What you are talking about is a shared reality. A reality that everyone agrees is there. But sometimes there are differences in what one perceives and another does and that gets communicated, and then arguments and misunderstandings happen.

But it all stems from how the individual has been interpreting the world.

Now don't get hunky funky on me because I'm about to explain something someone might call psychedelic.

There are ways to "hack", for lack of a better term, your brain. Maybe not all. But certainly some parts that we know about for sure. The way the short term memory works is by narrative, for example, before it's sent to the long term-memory. It's actually used a lot in therapy when dealing with depression or other psychological issues. But what I have noticed is that you don't need a therapist if you can do it yourself. You slowly over time rewrite your life story and suddenly a lot of things don't seem so bad.

I think I actually got that bit from xsilverphinx on here about the short term memory. I may be wrong. But that has a lot to do with the functioning of schizophrenics. The short term memory is experiencing some issue in the brain that causes weird ideas. And that makes them paranoid or delusional or bizarre ideas that are not anything that they have grown up with or apart of their culture.

So yeah, Dave was correct in saying that is how indoctrination works. Especially why people like to use the bible apparently as a tool for brain washing because you can get a feed back loop that is already built into the brain that you can just enter an input and then get what you want out. Much like a computer actually. Enter input, get output.
Title: Re: Science image dump
Post by: Davin on May 01, 2018, 03:59:49 PM
I think that shared reality as I know it, is not what I'm talking about. I'm saying that there is a reality that we are all perceiving, even if we do not perceive it accurately, we are still perceiving it. Reality is what it is with or without us.

Shared reality as I know it, is the idea that all conscious entities are experiencing a reality based on all their consciousnesses working together. I don't think that this is the way reality is.

If I ask someone what their house number is and they say 12863 but I remember it as 12683, there are not two realities where the person's house number is both, I was simply wrong. That is not two separate realities, that is me remembering something wrong.

Memories are changed all the time, that doesn't change reality, that only changes what one remembers of reality. I'm not really down with the idea that we each have our own realities (though I can understand it), because I think that it over complicates things for no good reason. Sometimes we are simply wrong, no need to try to justify our errors by inserting a reality into our heads, just correct it and move on. One reality is enough to worry about.

But sure, if you want to think about your mind as your own personal reality, and everyone else has their own personal realities, that's fine with me. I have thought a lot about thinking about it that way, and I find it too cumbersome when dealing with fixing things in the real world.