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I can't stand Trump or Christians. How do I get over this?
« on: January 10, 2017, 05:25:59 PM »
I can't stand whenever someone justifies evil. I've seen Trump and Christians do this all the time. Trump will justify things such as rape and racism, while Christians justify things such as murder of babies and cannibalism.

The thing is if I do any of this, I go to jail. I keep on telling myself if I do wrong, I will go to jail, but my mind thinks of the Christians and Trump getting away with it even more. I can't stand it. I want to end my life badly so I don't have to deal with these evil people anymore. What should I do?

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Re: I can't stand Trump or Christians. How do I get over this?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2017, 05:41:53 PM »
Still professional psychological counseling.

Do you need help finding resources, making the call, or getting there?

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Re: I can't stand Trump or Christians. How do I get over this?
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2017, 07:58:47 PM »
Go get help NOW. Call a friend, a counselor, a hotline, whatever helps.
There's plenty of good in this world too, and it needs people like you to balance things out.
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Re: I can't stand Trump or Christians. How do I get over this?
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2017, 10:57:18 PM »
1. I keep on telling myself if I do wrong, I will go to jail...
1. I want to end my life badly so I don't have to deal with these evil people anymore.
 
What should I do?
Are you saying that these are the only two options you have?
...And you want us to help you decide?  :eyebrow:

Why?

And why is it that you never respond to anyone's posts? Just curious.


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Re: I can't stand Trump or Christians. How do I get over this?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2017, 01:37:17 AM »
Get a psychologist you can barely afford, then we can have a pity party over the pricing of shrinky services.
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Re: I can't stand Trump or Christians. How do I get over this?
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2017, 02:59:49 AM »
I really think you need professional help with this.  I wish you the best of luck and a happy outcome.

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Re: I can't stand Trump or Christians. How do I get over this?
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2017, 03:19:29 AM »
Get a psychologist you can barely afford, then we can have a pity party over the pricing of shrinky services.

Knowing the Asmo enjoys certain mood-balancing prescriptions to some degree, I feel he should know that a psychologist is generally required to obtain these in the US. It's not entirely about talk therapy.

A general doctor is legally able but typically will not due to potential liability of it not being their area of expertise. Generally you will only get short courses of things like Adavan with no refills from a general doctor or ER.

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Re: I can't stand Trump or Christians. How do I get over this?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2017, 04:30:07 AM »
Get a psychologist you can barely afford, then we can have a pity party over the pricing of shrinky services.

That's outrageous!!!!!!
Your society subsidises crack whores but makes you pay for shrinkage?
Have you thought of doing a bit of crack whoring to get your shrinks for free?
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Re: I can't stand Trump or Christians. How do I get over this?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2017, 04:55:28 AM »
I can't stand whenever someone justifies evil. I've seen Trump and Christians do this all the time. Trump will justify things such as rape and racism, while Christians justify things such as murder of babies and cannibalism.

The thing is if I do any of this, I go to jail. I keep on telling myself if I do wrong, I will go to jail, but my mind thinks of the Christians and Trump getting away with it even more. I can't stand it. I want to end my life badly so I don't have to deal with these evil people anymore. What should I do?

So you're feeling inclined to do evil but are repressed by fear of gaol and are pissed that others are doing it and getting away with it?
Oh, oh, my, and who really cares

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Re: I can't stand Trump or Christians. How do I get over this?
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2017, 05:22:15 AM »
Knowing the Asmo enjoys certain mood-balancing prescriptions to some degree, I feel he should know that a psychologist is generally required to obtain these in the US. It's not entirely about talk therapy.
My pills do come by courtesy of an M.D, but one specialised in shrinking stuff. The general practitioner does dose adjustments based on the severity of incessant whining from the patient. I'm content as a cucumber with this arrangement.

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A general doctor is legally able but typically will not due to potential liability of it not being their area of expertise. Generally you will only get short courses of things like Adavan with no refills from a general doctor or ER.
Yeah... Pretty much the same story here, but I don't think liability is the main issue Norwegian M.Ds worry about.

That's outrageous!!!!!!
Your society subsidises crack whores but makes you pay for shrinkage?
Have you thought of doing a bit of crack whoring to get your shrinks for free?
I did consider drinking, but that affects my balance. Smoking pot proved an even more unpleasant experience... I fear I'd make for a miserable crack whore even by the lowest of crack whore standards.  :(
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Re: I can't stand Trump or Christians. How do I get over this?
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2017, 07:10:00 PM »
I want to end my life badly so I don't have to deal with these evil people anymore. What should I do?

I have to be honest with you, this is a strange thing to ask strangers on a public forum. This is not the first time you've asked whether you should off yourself here, and I doubt it will be the last.

Take a step back for a moment. As has been said, you really need to seek professional help if you're having suicidal thoughts. Your over-the-top reaction to religious double standards and hypocrisy is not normal and if it's brought on by a condition such as depression, you should really seek treatment. Such mental illnesses are in most cases easily treatable.
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Re: I can't stand Trump or Christians. How do I get over this?
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2017, 12:54:03 AM »
I can't stand whenever someone justifies evil. I've seen Trump and Christians do this all the time. Trump will justify things such as rape and racism, while Christians justify things such as murder of babies and cannibalism.

Can you cite an example of 1) a Christian justifying the murder of babies; and 2) of cannibalism, please?
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Re: I can't stand Trump or Christians. How do I get over this?
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2017, 05:53:27 AM »

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Re: I can't stand Trump or Christians. How do I get over this?
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2017, 08:16:49 AM »
I can't stand whenever someone justifies evil. I've seen Trump and Christians do this all the time. Trump will justify things such as rape and racism, while Christians justify things such as murder of babies and cannibalism.

Can you cite an example of 1) a Christian justifying the murder of babies; and 2) of cannibalism, please?

"Slaughter of the Canaanites" | Reasonable Faith

In a perverse way the whole article is worthwhile as an example of Craig's casuistry, but I'll quote a section where he explicitly justifies the "murder of babies."

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God knew that if these Canaanite children were allowed to live, they would spell the undoing of Israel.  The killing of the Canaanite children not only served to prevent assimilation to Canaanite identity but also served as a shattering, tangible illustration of Israel’s being set exclusively apart for God.

Moreover, if we believe, as I do, that God’s grace is extended to those who die in infancy or as small children, the death of these children was actually their salvation.  We are so wedded to an earthly, naturalistic perspective that we forget that those who die are happy to quit this earth for heaven’s incomparable joy.  Therefore, God does these children no wrong in taking their lives.

Craig finds the murder of innocents completely justifiable, but he does have qualms about this example of YHVH's bloodthirst:

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Ironically, I think the most difficult part of this whole debate is the apparent wrong done to the Israeli soldiers themselves.  Can you imagine what it would be like to have to break into some house and kill a terrified woman and her children?  The brutalizing effect on these Israeli soldiers is disturbing.

Regarding cannibalism, I'm not sure what MatureMcLeod was referring to, but as a Catholic you are required to believe that you literally eat the body of Jesus when you receive communion, are you not?
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Re: I can't stand Trump or Christians. How do I get over this?
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2017, 10:08:18 PM »
I can't stand whenever someone justifies evil. I've seen Trump and Christians do this all the time. Trump will justify things such as rape and racism, while Christians justify things such as murder of babies and cannibalism.

Can you cite an example of 1) a Christian justifying the murder of babies; and 2) of cannibalism, please?

Dredge, Wow! I'm glad you finally got out of the "other room."

Hi, listen, I'm sorry to interrupt your conversation, but there's something I would like to say to you.

I would like to apologize for doing this to you:

I don't know why I did that. There's no excuse for it. I would also like to apologize for being the one who is somewhat responsible for your second "ban warning."  :shifty:

Hopefully, we can get to know you better by talking about other things. We can talk about things like..."A starfish at the bottom of the ocean, what could it be contemplating right now?" in the philosophy section of the forum...if you want.  :grin:

Also, I don't think MatureMcLeod will be answering you. He likes to ask questions but doesn't like to answer them, and/or is very selective of the ones he wants to answer...like you















































I'm sure, are well aware, by now, that this happens a lot in forums. Yes?  :grin:

Anyways, remember this:

Peace.  :grin:

OK.
Please continue the conversation: I can't stand Trump or Christians. How do I get over this?

Thank you.


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