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« on: June 23, 2016, 09:08:53 PM »
Looks like it's "Leave."

Does this mean the the end of Cameron and the rise of Boris?

And Scotland wanted to "Remain."  Will they now leave the UK and join the EU as an independent nation?

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2016, 12:43:51 AM »
Unexpected. I think this is a glowingly-good example of what can happen if you mobilise your couch voters. The leaves were just somewhat more successful than the stays at it.

The Mirror writes:
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Farage claims he's won Brexit 'without a bullet being fired'

Nigel Farage has claimed he has won Brexit “without a single bullet being fired”.

The Ukip leader’s highly inflammatory comments at a Leave.EU victory party in London come just a week after Remain-backing Labour MP Jo Cox was shot dead.

He told supporters: “The dawn is breaking on an independent United Kingdom!”

The millionaire former banker was met with roars of approval as he told backers: “We have fought against the multinationals, we have fought against the big merchant banks we fought against big politics, we fought against lies, corruption and deceit
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...So the lady who got killed over this..? She was stabbed with them bullets, right? Because not a single one was fired, yes?

Also, Cameron resigned. I've read something earlier about some vote taking place to keep him in the office? I guess he felt he had to go over this issue?

...Also, what is this Article 50, that's being mentioned both here and there with not a single reference to where they've got it from..?  :(

And Scotland wanted to "Remain."  Will they now leave the UK and join the EU as an independent nation?
Gibraltar voted overwhelmingly in favour of staying too.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2016, 01:30:55 AM »
So, we've decided to leave.  The next thing will be that the establishment try to reach a settlement with which they try to fool the British people that we're out, but which really will still be a concealed 'in'.

Leaving is a very worrying move and some things will go badly, but despite temporary chaos I believe that it's the right thing for the long term.  The EU is a sinking ship and will break up in chaos with or without Britain.

Cameron has announced that he will resign in a few months.  I think that is the right decision.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2016, 03:25:30 AM »
Unexpected. I think this is a glowingly-good example of what can happen if you mobilise your couch voters. The leaves were just somewhat more successful than the stays at it.

The Mirror writes:
Quote from: mirror.co.uk
Farage claims he's won Brexit 'without a bullet being fired'

Nigel Farage has claimed he has won Brexit “without a single bullet being fired”.

The Ukip leader’s highly inflammatory comments at a Leave.EU victory party in London come just a week after Remain-backing Labour MP Jo Cox was shot dead.

He told supporters: “The dawn is breaking on an independent United Kingdom!”

The millionaire former banker was met with roars of approval as he told backers: “We have fought against the multinationals, we have fought against the big merchant banks we fought against big politics, we fought against lies, corruption and deceit
Source

...So the lady who got killed over this..? She was stabbed with them bullets, right? Because not a single one was fired, yes?

Also, Cameron resigned. I've read something earlier about some vote taking place to keep him in the office? I guess he felt he had to go over this issue?

...Also, what is this Article 50, that's being mentioned both here and there with not a single reference to where they've got it from..?  :(

And Scotland wanted to "Remain."  Will they now leave the UK and join the EU as an independent nation?
Gibraltar voted overwhelmingly in favour of staying too.

Article 50 is the procedure for setting in motion the process of extricating us I believe.

If only people under 50 had been allowed to vote, it would have been the other outcome apparently. You can't do that, but it's more their world than mine. Neither choice was appealing, but isolationist position is an unenviable one, especially when no-one can predict anything with certainty, (except that our beloved PM will never wonder where his next meal is coming from).

I have to say I was really really shocked. I thought it would be about 60/40 for remain.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2016, 04:08:17 AM »
I still think the USA and the U.K. ought to unite.  We would kick ass. USAS - United States of Anglo-Saxons. Canada, too.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2016, 04:33:55 AM »
I still think the USA and the U.K. ought to unite.  We would kick ass. USAS - United States of Anglo-Saxons. Canada, too.
What you really mean are the native English speakers. And you can all have the Queen back as head of state.
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2016, 04:36:42 AM »
So, we've decided to leave.  The next thing will be that the establishment try to reach a settlement with which they try to fool the British people that we're out, but which really will still be a concealed 'in'.

Leaving is a very worrying move and some things will go badly, but despite temporary chaos I believe that it's the right thing for the long term.  The EU is a sinking ship and will break up in chaos with or without Britain.

Cameron has announced that he will resign in a few months.  I think that is the right decision.

What's done is done. And you can bet your life that the Brexiters will be blamed for everything that ever goes wrong again. The first thing will be a price rise in petrol as oil in paid for in dollars. But that won't worry some people as they don't use petrol or diesel :D
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2016, 04:41:24 AM »
I still think the USA and the U.K. ought to unite.  We would kick ass. USAS - United States of Anglo-Saxons. Canada, too.
What you really mean are the native English speakers. And you can all have the Queen back as head of state.

We like the Queen. Since she has no power, I'm fine with that.  Or England could just be a separate group of states with that tradition: New England, Old England. 

Native English speakers have a lot in common.  Unification makes sense.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2016, 05:42:19 AM »
I still think the USA and the U.K. ought to unite.  We would kick ass. USAS - United States of Anglo-Saxons. Canada, too.
What you really mean are the native English speakers. And you can all have the Queen back as head of state.

No no no no no no no no... Please. I beg you. No more tabloids covers. No more discussions about who will be king or queen. No more royal weddings. Every time the US press covers the royals I want to shoot my TV. Every time my Facebook feed fills up with royal wedding crap I want troll harder than Music Loving Atheist. Why is Kate so "admired"? What has she ever done besides look pretty and pump out babies? Hell, your economy's going downhill now with Brexit, why not dump the monarchy and all the money spent on it to make up for it?
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2016, 05:56:42 AM »
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The first thing will be a price rise in petrol as oil in paid for in dollars. But that won't worry some people as they don't use petrol or diesel :D

Sadly, autogas is distilled from oil and will also get dearer.  So will a lot of other things, but we'll have to grin and bear it.  Things will look different in a few years.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2016, 07:03:31 AM »
Man, and the shipping cost calculations for my company were already very complicated to deal with for the EU... I can't wait to dig into the changes with this...

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2016, 07:11:39 AM »
It's a huge experiment, that's for certain.

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2016, 07:55:36 AM »
Interesting times we live in. :popcorn:
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Re: Brexit
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2016, 10:03:48 AM »
Interesting times we live in. :popcorn:

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Re: Brexit
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2016, 10:23:11 AM »
Quote from: Tank
The first thing will be a price rise in petrol as oil in paid for in dollars. But that won't worry some people as they don't use petrol or diesel :D

Sadly, autogas is distilled from oil and will also get dearer.  So will a lot of other things, but we'll have to grin and bear it.  Things will look different in a few years.
Is it not, in a way, a bi-product of subsea drilling and such..? I must admit, I'm a bit weak on the details. Is it at least a propane/butane mixture?
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