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Started by ZenithOClock, February 15, 2016, 04:35:03 PM

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ZenithOClock

Hi everyone,

I'm Zen and I love discussing, reading about and generally cogitating assorted views on Atheism and related ephemera.

Ideas come and go, and I've always found it useful to question what I think I know as fact. There was an interesting point about 'facts' in the post I read on,  'Discussion'. I assume if the discussion is about the nature of 'facts' then looking it up is not going to be helpful.

I do have some very different ideas about things from most people, but they are well considered and researched, I'm not one to take up on flights of fancy. My personal take on philosophy originate in and builds on Giles Deleuze's work on identity which is then informed by evolutionary psychology and quantum physics along the way. I'd probably describe my views as stark and disinterested, or at least as disinterested as I can be.

I like old Science Fiction B-movies and new ones too. I'm looking forward to getting to know you all and immersing myself in some meaty topics.

Zen.


Asmodean

Welcome.

I'm Asmo. I don't love, but I do find some momentary pleasure in a good intellectual workout on a broad range of topics (at least those that do not involve sports, outdoor lifestyle and activities and the like)

I approve of stark, if not necessarilly disinterested. If interest causes bias, however... Well, that's one difference between the theoretical and the practical aspects of a concept, I suppose. I tend not to label myself as no shoe truly fits, but if anything, I suppose I'm a fatalist without the fate part. What will be, will be, yet what will be, must not be.

I like "superbudget" Sci-Fi. A book may well be ill judged by its cover, but a shiney cover can, in my subjective experience, save a crappy-to-mediocre story on the big screen. I greatly enjoyed Avatar, for example, even though the story was so thin it was basically transparent. They more than compensated with the overall amount of excellent CGI. The best Sci-Fi movies and series though, are those, which manage to combine the latest and greatest in computer graphics technology with storylines deviating from the much-used good vs. evil humans vs aliens concept. A.I - Artificial Intelligence is a fair example of such.
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Luxembourg trembles.

Firebird

Welcome! I've been here a few years now and it's a nice, friendly group of people.
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Siz

Hello Zen, Welcome. We're not all nice BTW, coz that would just be wearisome.

Is there a NadirOClock?

When one sleeps on the floor one need not worry about falling out of bed - Anton LaVey

The universe is a cold, uncaring void. The key to happiness isn't a search for meaning, it's to just keep yourself busy with unimportant nonsense, and eventually you'll be dead!

Tank

If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Biggus Dickus

Hello Zen,

Welcome to the forum, I hope we see you around soon, commenting on current topics, possibly discussing philosophy, or maybe just  chewing fat and making smart remarks.  ;D

Anyway, I'm sure you'll find some like minded members here who'll give you the intellectual workout you desire.

By the way not sure if you are into Zen at all or if I'm guessing correctly it's simply short for Zenith, but here is one of my favorite Zen quotes.

American dog say, 'Woof, woof.' Korean dog say, 'Mung, mung.' Polish dog say, 'How, how.' So which dog barking is correct?
That is human beings' barking, not 'dog' barking.
If dog and you become one hundred percent one, then you know sound of barking.
This is Zen teaching.
Boom!  (Drops microphone)
Become one.
"Some people just need a high-five. In the face. With a chair."

Recusant

Quote from: ZenithOClock on February 15, 2016, 04:35:03 PM
Hi everyone,

I'm Zen and I love discussing, reading about and generally cogitating assorted views on Atheism and related ephemera.

Ideas come and go, and I've always found it useful to question what I think I know as fact. There was an interesting point about 'facts' in the post I read on,  'Discussion'. I assume if the discussion is about the nature of 'facts' then looking it up is not going to be helpful.

I do have some very different ideas about things from most people, but they are well considered and researched, I'm not one to take up on flights of fancy. My personal take on philosophy originate in and builds on Giles Deleuze's work on identity which is then informed by evolutionary psychology and quantum physics along the way. I'd probably describe my views as stark and disinterested, or at least as disinterested as I can be.

I like old Science Fiction B-movies and new ones too. I'm looking forward to getting to know you all and immersing myself in some meaty topics.

Zen.

Hello and welcome to HAF, ZenithOClock. I'm curious--what was the interesting point that you read, and where is this "Discussion" that contains the post in which the point was made?

A senryu:

Vegetarians
May have little use for the
Meatier topics

I hope that you enjoy your time reading and posting here.

:animwelcome:
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken


xSilverPhinx

Welcome to the forum, Zenith. I hope you enjoy reading and posting here.  :wave hi:
I am what survives if it's slain - Zack Hemsey


Sandra Craft

Quote from: ZenithOClock on February 15, 2016, 04:35:03 PM

I like old Science Fiction B-movies and new ones too. I'm looking forward to getting to know you all and immersing myself in some meaty topics.


Welcome!  I'm not generally one for meaty topics, so . . . what are your favorite B SF movies?  My top favorite is "Attack of the Mushroom People".
Sandy

  

"Life is short, and it is up to you to make it sweet."  Sarah Louise Delany

Magdalena

Welcome, ZenithOClock.

Quote from: Bruno de la Pole on February 15, 2016, 08:12:24 PM
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Anyway, I'm sure you'll find some like minded members here who'll give you the intellectual workout you desire.
ZenithOClock, just so that you know, I'm not one of the members who'll give you the intellectual workout you desire.


I'm more like him:
Quote from: Bruno de la Pole on February 15, 2016, 08:12:24 PM
By the way not sure if you are into Zen at all or if I'm guessing correctly it's simply short for Zenith, but here is one of my favorite Zen quotes.

American dog say, 'Woof, woof.' Korean dog say, 'Mung, mung.' Polish dog say, 'How, how.' So which dog barking is correct?
That is human beings' barking, not 'dog' barking.
If dog and you become one hundred percent one, then you know sound of barking.
This is Zen teaching.
Boom!  (Drops microphone)
Become one.


Boom!  (Drops microphone)
You know what I mean?

"I've had several "spiritual" or numinous experiences over the years, but never felt that they were the product of anything but the workings of my own mind in reaction to the universe." ~Recusant

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Icarus

Welcome to the forum.

If you want intellectual workouts you will be pleased to learn that there are a few HAF members who are intellectual Phi Betas Kappa,s. We are not generally argumentative but we do discuss social and philosophic subjects with an open mind.

Asmodean Prime

...And sometimes it involves the good kind of fist-shaking and shouting.