Religious organisation takes it too far. Again.

[Sweetdeath]

It kind of reminds me, on a larger more psycho-scale, of when I was in a youth group and the adult running it described in excruciating detail the process of crucifixion. I'm talking rusty-spikes piercing arms and feet with a hammer, the process of bleeding to death (dehydration, hallucination, etc.), the excruciation of bearing your weight as you hang there for hours and hours - getting stabbed with a spear, thorns tearing up your scalp and eyes, having your legs broken to make sure you're dead. All of it. With the sole intent of horrifying us and (I guess?) making us feel, generally, like shit. We had an entire "class" dedicated to this bullshit.

I was probably 9, I think? I'm pretty sure some people cried. And at the end the adult was all satisfied and like "yes, now you understand what Jesus went through. For YOU."

People who consider these "lessons" valuable to children really shouldn't be given access to them.

[The Magic Pudding]

having your legs broken to make sure you're dead.

I know Jesus had puncture wounds to display to the disciples but how about his legs.
Were they repaired or did he stumble about on broken legs?

[Sweetdeath]

Damn, HAF ate my post!


LOL
Maybe jesus invented crutches... ( or was that the Chinese?)

[DeterminedJuliet]

having your legs broken to make sure you're dead.

I know Jesus had puncture wounds to display to the disciples but how about his legs.
Were they repaired or did he stumble about on broken legs?

Yeah, that's a good point! I guess we were too horror-stricken to think all that critically about it.

[Tank]

Tank! Apparently, we need a thread merge.

Well spotted and done 

[Too Few Lions]

what a fucked up story. Maybe they could round up a few non-believers next week and get the children to torture and burn them at the stake to remind them how Christians have also persecuted many people in the past...

[Sweetdeath]

what a fucked up story. Maybe they could round up a few non-believers next week and get the children to torture and burn them at the stake to remind them how Christians have also persecuted many people in the past...

How about a good old public cruxifiction?

[Crocoduck]

what a fucked up story. Maybe they could round up a few non-believers next week and get the children to torture and burn them at the stake to remind them how Christians have also persecuted many people in the past...

[Firebird]

You know what would be quite incredibly funny? If one or two of them kids were packing heat and decided to defend themselves with lethal force.

What would those wannabe-kidnappers do then with their unloaded AK? Use it as a club?

Heh...that's a good point. If the kid decides to shoot the guy and then invokes the Stand Your Ground laws as his/her defense, who's right? Personally, I'd think they're all fucked up, but that's just me.

[Tank]

In Spy Catcher there is a story about interrogation training, both doing it and resisting it. The trainee 'victim' was told to wait in a flat for the trainee interrogation team to arrive and not tell them anything. He sat there for hours and the team didn't turn up. He called his controller. They said that the team had confirmed they had arrived. He said they hadn't. The controller checked with the interrogation team who confirmed they had captured the 'victim' and he was doing a great job of giving the impression of not knowing anything!

The interrogation team had gone to the wrong address!!!

The unsuspecting 'victim' received 'significant' financial compensation 

[cgmccall]

The worst part of all this is that somehow these people thought they were genuinely helping these kids. They think they're going to be violently and religiously persecuted...in American. What kind of paranoia is bubbling under the surface of this society that this can happen?

[xSilverPhinx]

The worst part of all this is that somehow these people thought they were genuinely helping these kids. They think they're going to be violently and religiously persecuted...in American. What kind of paranoia is bubbling under the surface of this society that this can happen?

Funny to think just how distorted people's perceptions become. If one of the the kids got violent, would they be surprised?

Some would probably end up with post traumatic stress disorder, maybe that girl crying in the video.

[Beachdragon]

The worst part of all this is that somehow these people thought they were genuinely helping these kids. They think they're going to be violently and religiously persecuted...in American. What kind of paranoia is bubbling under the surface of this society that this can happen?

Funny to think just how distorted people's perceptions become. If one of the the kids got violent, would they be surprised?

Some would probably end up with post traumatic stress disorder, maybe that girl crying in the video.

The first thing that came to mind for me is the controversy about the shootings at Virginia Tech University.  A lot of conservatives were arguing that students should be allowed to carry guns in the class rooms so they can shoot people who threaten them and or protect the class.

Fast forward to this story, what if one of these students was so armed and shot the "kidnappers"...particularly freaking morons who are pointing real guns at people.  I don't think there would be any fault at all.  It's not like they identified themselves.  It was a bonafide kidnapping when they stole the kids, gagged (masked) them and dragged them off without disclosing who they were.

I remember once when my parents were still alive and running a bakery business, someone came in and had his hand in his pocket and threatened my mother for money.  He showed that he had something perceived as dangerous in his pocket. 

He was caught and went to court and his defense said that it was only a roll of quarters in his pocket and not dangerous.

The judge scolded the defendant and said that it was the perceived threat that made it an armed robbery, gun or not.  Mom had no way of knowing it wasn't a gun so it may as well have been a gun for all she knew. 

Same thing here. 

[ibm]

In our times of digital cameras, why was this dramatization NOT recorded by the organizers themselves?

If it would have been discussed (the recording of a fake hostage scene), the event would not have taken place due to good old reasoning by the organizers.

Once again we have a case of minor's testimony versus adults (and no recordings).  Just another religious sad story. 

[markmcdaniel]

If charges have not been filed than than they should be.