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"1945-1998" by Isao Hashimoto
« on: June 13, 2011, 11:17:09 PM »
2053 atomic devices were detonated between 1945 and 1998. This animation places all of them by time and place. Quite terrifying.

http://www.ctbto.org/specials/1945-1998-by-isao-hashimoto/
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Re: "1945-1998" by Isao Hashimoto
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2011, 11:27:59 PM »
God, save us from ourselves.
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Re: "1945-1998" by Isao Hashimoto
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2011, 11:30:59 PM »
God, save us from ourselves.
Why?
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Re: "1945-1998" by Isao Hashimoto
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2011, 11:49:27 PM »
Why what?
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Re: "1945-1998" by Isao Hashimoto
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2011, 01:29:27 AM »
Holy shit.

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Re: "1945-1998" by Isao Hashimoto
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2011, 08:36:29 AM »
Holy shit.


It is rather isn't it. 1958 and parts of the early '60s are like watching a nuclear war but all the weapons going off on their own territory. All the way through the USAs total exceeds the sum of all the other nuclear powers combined. I was mildly amused how the British and French blew the crap out of their colonies  ;D

Did you notice the handful of British tests that took place in the USA?
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Re: "1945-1998" by Isao Hashimoto
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2011, 08:37:19 AM »
Why what?
Why should god save us from ourselves?
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Re: "1945-1998" by Isao Hashimoto
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2011, 09:38:40 AM »
Why what?
Why should god save us from ourselves?
I don't think He is under any obligation to.
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Re: "1945-1998" by Isao Hashimoto
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2011, 10:16:02 AM »
Why what?
Why should god save us from ourselves?
I don't think He is under any obligation to.
Then why did you post 'God save us from ourselves.'? What relevance does that post have to this thread if 'He' is under no obligation to 'His' creation?
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Re: "1945-1998" by Isao Hashimoto
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2011, 10:43:51 AM »
Then why did you post 'God save us from ourselves.'? What relevance does that post have to this thread if 'He' is under no obligation to 'His' creation?
Consider it a cry of desperation for the state of humanity, bent on self-destruction, to a God who, though under no obligation towards us, is a God of grace and love who will ultimately save us from ourselves.
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Re: "1945-1998" by Isao Hashimoto
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2011, 11:09:59 AM »
Then why did you post 'God save us from ourselves.'? What relevance does that post have to this thread if 'He' is under no obligation to 'His' creation?
Consider it a cry of desperation for the state of humanity, bent on self-destruction, to a God who, though under no obligation towards us, is a God of grace and love who will ultimately save us from ourselves.
Ah! Wishful thinking at it's very best  ;)
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Re: "1945-1998" by Isao Hashimoto
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2011, 11:13:54 AM »
Consider it a cry of desperation for the state of humanity, bent on self-destruction, to a God who, though under no obligation towards us, is a God of grace and love who will ultimately save us from ourselves.

I don't like this attitude, I don't mind a third world mother taking comfort in god whilst burying another child, it does me no harm.  But this attitude allows people to not take responsibility for their actions.  Let's say the worlds a row boat in a stormy sea, I worry the believers aren't putting in maximum effort to keep us afloat, they underestimate the danger.  We can only be saved by our own efforts.  Even if their were a god how would you know the ability to manage our earth isn't part of the test?  Oh don't tell me, I bet it's in that book.
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Re: "1945-1998" by Isao Hashimoto
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2011, 11:23:56 AM »
If we have free will it is down to us to sort out this sort of shit, irrespective of His existence or not. If we don't have free will then we are not responsible for what happens. If God gave us free will He is still vicariously responsible for what we do with it, so if God exists He IS ultimately responsible for the fate of the amusement park, and all the inhabitants thereof, He created.

EDIT, added below.

So calling on God to help us is a waste of time and effort as he should have never let us get into this shit in the first place or he doesn't give a shit now that we are in this situation.

So either God does not exist or he's a completely psychopath and in the later case he can go fuck himself. And I'd say that to his face if he showed up right now. But as he would be a psychopath he wouldn't care any way.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2011, 11:33:11 AM by Tank »
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Re: "1945-1998" by Isao Hashimoto
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2011, 12:45:15 PM »
Consider it a cry of desperation for the state of humanity, bent on self-destruction, to a God who, though under no obligation towards us, is a God of grace and love who will ultimately save us from ourselves.
Ah! Wishful thinking at it's very best  ;)
Perhaps, if there was no Resurrection.
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Re: "1945-1998" by Isao Hashimoto
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2011, 12:51:23 PM »
Consider it a cry of desperation for the state of humanity, bent on self-destruction, to a God who, though under no obligation towards us, is a God of grace and love who will ultimately save us from ourselves.
Ah! Wishful thinking at it's very best  ;)
Perhaps, if there was no Resurrection.
Wishful thinking multiplied by wishful thinking = even less reason to believe.
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