I don't see a problem. The guy said something that crossed the line of what even Breitbart was uncomfortable with... that line is pretty far into bullshit town. The publisher of the book backed out, well within their rights.
Of course they are within their full rights to drop his stuff. In my book, however, that is a mark against them, seeing how the stuff they dropped had little to do with their provided reason for dropping it.
I watched the guy on Bill Maher. He was offensive. He wasn't "politically correct." He was rude to fellow guests and behaved like a toddler. All of those are fine in themselves but only if the people allowing him onto their show, into their places are OK with it.
On Real Time? I've just watched that interview and could not for the life of me find anything offensive in it. Or are we even talking about the same show?
This is actually interesting. It was not my intention to create a thread about Milo per se, but do let us explore this a little bit. I'm familiar with a fair amount of his stuff, and time and time again he "went after" groups I identify with - even strongly so. Atheists, for example. Yes, he thinks we are a thin-skinned, whiny sort of bunch... But I'm not. I can't relate to the atheist he describes. Thus, he does not have a point with regard to me. Why would I be offended? Yes, he says we all spout the same quotes by one Horseman or another, but I barely know any quotes by the Horsemen, so again, not a point with regard to me. Why would I be offended? And what if he did have a point? Truth may not always be pelasant, but being offended by it..? I think it takes a special lack of self-reflection, although perhaps it's only special to a person who is happy enough to identify his own insecurities through being ridiculed by others.
Another interesting point... Actually, I'll take the longer route; I'm not
offended. Why is it that you are
It seems like some people are trying to say that because he is intentionally offensive then we can't do anything about it because that is discrimination. I say, fuck that. Don't let bias get in the way. Just like no one has the right to not be offended, no one has the right to offend. Free speech sure, but no one is making him shut up, they're practicing their own rights of not supporting him. I don't think people should get special treatment just because they are offensive.
Oh, I sure hope he does not shut up! I find him very entertaining - even when he expresses opinions I disagree with.
It seems like the natural conclusion to a person who intentionally tries to offend everyone, they end up with no one supporting them.
I neither agree nor disagree with that; it hinges mostly on the use of the words "everyone" and "no-one."
...Care to bite on my political correctness and arguments from hurt feelings theme?
If Milo was just one idiot spouting off racist, xenophobic crap, I wouldn't really care. Sure, people can be far too sensitive these days. But like Gloucester said, people are easily incited. Milo's trolling of Leslie Jones, for example, likely emboldened the assholes who hacked her website and posted her private information and nude pics for everyone to see. That's beyond being an asshole, now you're being a bully and humiliating someone just because you want to provoke a reaction,trying to shame them into silence. So this is not just about being PC, in my opinion.
Along those same lines, viewing what happened at Charlie Hebdo as "self-inflicted" seems misplaced. If the argument is that people should "grow the fuck up", why not include the militant Islamists who get riled up when someone dares to make fun of their damn prophet? Seeks like a double standard. At least sensitive college students aren't murdering people.
Militant Islamists (And other religious fanatics, but mostly the Islamists), if any of you are reading this;
Grow. The. Fuck. Up.
Happy? If you were talking about Milo, by the way, although he is the type to say exactly that, "grow the fuck up" was my
line in this context. Yes, I do think Islamists should grow the fuck up. Trouble is, I'm unlikely to get through to that "sensible person trying to get out" inside an Islamic fundie because there usually is none there.
I don't see how Milo is trying to shame any one into silence. He's more than capable of dealing with whatever comes out of their mouth, it seems. Shelling someone's ideas is not shaming them into silence. Yes, the ad-hominems are silly and, in my opinion, uncalled for, but in returning to my subtle point-to-be-made, I am not offended. Why are you?