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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2017, 07:31:52 AM »
http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/29/nations-hit-by-trump-travel-ban-have-produced-7-percent-of-muslim-terrorists-zero-fatalities/
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Not a single person has died in any of the attacks perpetrated in the United States by terrorists from the seven blocked countries since 2001.

If any Trump supporters wanted to look it up, the data is out there. So if these are not countries from which terrorists who have hurt us have come from, why then didn't he ban the countries where terrorists who have hurt us came from? Well, this image might help.



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Migration freeze countries in red, and, in yellow, countries where Donald Trump has done business or pursued potential deals (Bloomberg)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/muslim-countries-donald-trump-immigration-ban-temporary-freeze-us-entry-visa-syria-libya-yemen-iran-a7549061.html

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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2017, 10:18:26 AM »
Yeah, 15 of the 19 9/11 terrorists, who actually did damage by killing 3000 people and destroying billions of dollars of property, came from Saudi Arabia.  No ban there, of course, since Trump does business.  All the terrorist acts together against American citizens don't equal what the Saudi citizens did on 9/11. And let's not forget that attack was orchestrated by a Saudi, Mr. Bin Laden.

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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2017, 10:35:08 AM »
Yeah, 15 of the 19 9/11 terrorists, who actually did damage by killing 3000 people and destroying billions of dollars of property, came from Saudi Arabia.  No ban there, of course, since Trump does business.  All the terrorist acts together against American citizens don't equal what the Saudi citizens did on 9/11. And let's not forget that attack was orchestrated by a Saudi, Mr. Bin Laden.

Not that it matters his father was a Yemeni. After living a rather Western younger lifestyle, he became obsessed about how he felt that Saudi Arabia, the land of Muhammad,  was being contaminated by the West with the conivance of the royal family. Thus he was anti the royal family.
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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2017, 02:09:25 PM »
I just received an email from Uber saying that the following. Or tl;dr they are putting money to fight the immigration ban because their drivers are also immigrants.

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At Uber we've always believed in standing up for what's right. Today we need your help supporting drivers who may be impacted by President Trump's new immigration ban.

Drivers who are citizens of Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria or Yemen and live in the US but have left the country, will not be able to return for 90 days. This means they won't be able to earn money and support their families during this period.

It's important that as a community we do everything we can to help these drivers. Here's what Uber will do:
•      Provide 24/7 legal support for drivers who are trying to get back into the country. Our lawyers and immigration experts will be on call 24/7 to help.
•     Compensate drivers for their lost earnings. This will help them support their families and put food on the table while they are banned from the US.
•     Urge the government to reinstate the right of US residents to travel—whatever their country of origin—immediately.
•      Create a $3 million legal defense fund to help drivers with immigration and translation services.
If you are a driver or a friend or family member of someone who has been affected, please contact us here.

Uber is a community. We're here to support each other. Please help Uber to help drivers who may be affected by this unjust and wrong immigration ban.
Travis
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But, uh...well there it is.


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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2017, 03:48:00 PM »
I just received an email from Uber saying that the following. Or tl;dr they are putting money to fight the immigration ban because their drivers are also immigrants.

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At Uber we've always believed in standing up for what's right. Today we need your help supporting drivers who may be impacted by President Trump's new immigration ban.

Drivers who are citizens of Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria or Yemen and live in the US but have left the country, will not be able to return for 90 days. This means they won't be able to earn money and support their families during this period.

It's important that as a community we do everything we can to help these drivers. Here's what Uber will do:
•      Provide 24/7 legal support for drivers who are trying to get back into the country. Our lawyers and immigration experts will be on call 24/7 to help.
•     Compensate drivers for their lost earnings. This will help them support their families and put food on the table while they are banned from the US.
•     Urge the government to reinstate the right of US residents to travel—whatever their country of origin—immediately.
•      Create a $3 million legal defense fund to help drivers with immigration and translation services.
If you are a driver or a friend or family member of someone who has been affected, please contact us here.

Uber is a community. We're here to support each other. Please help Uber to help drivers who may be affected by this unjust and wrong immigration ban.
Travis
Uber Founder & CEO

Yeah, but they're also advertising on Breitbart and refuse to stop despite being called out on it multiple times.
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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2017, 09:52:39 PM »
I just received an email from Uber saying that the following. Or tl;dr they are putting money to fight the immigration ban because their drivers are also immigrants.

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Yeah, but they're also advertising on Breitbart and refuse to stop despite being called out on it multiple times.

I don't know details but maybe it's a good thing we have support on both sides of the fence against Trump.
But, uh...well there it is.


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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2017, 10:17:10 AM »
Donald Trump is a threat to the European Union, EU Parliament chief Brexit negotiator Guy Verhofstadt says

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Guy Verhofstadt made the comment at a speech in London on Monday afternoon, warning that the union was facing a three-pronged attack from outside forces.

Two of the forces were Russia's Vladimir Putin and radical Islamism, he said, which were trying to undermine the EU project. But he added: “I have just come back from US and my view is that we have a third front that is undermining the EU ... and that is Donald Trump.”
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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2017, 01:03:51 PM »
It's no longer a question of IF Trump will be impeached, it's a matter of WHEN and how much more damage will he be allowed to do before action is taken against him.
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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2017, 01:10:46 PM »
It's no longer a question of IF Trump will be impeached, it's a matter of WHEN and how much more damage will he be allowed to do before action is taken against him.
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He is getting heat from all sides, even Republicans.
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But, uh...well there it is.


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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2017, 04:27:10 PM »
It wouldn't surprise me if these people would vote for President Dumpster Fire again.  :headshake:

"Family of Syrians Deported From Philadelphia Voted for Donald Trump"

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A Pennsylvania family fighting to have their relatives return to the United States after they were detained at Philadelphia International Airport and sent back overseas under the immigration order told "NBC Nightly News" that they voted for Donald Trump.

“I understand he wants to make America safe,” Sarmad Assali said. "We're all on with this. I definitely want to be in a safe place. But people need us and we need to be there for them."

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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2017, 05:51:46 PM »
It wouldn't surprise me if these people would vote for President Dumpster Fire again.  :headshake:

"Family of Syrians Deported From Philadelphia Voted for Donald Trump"

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A Pennsylvania family fighting to have their relatives return to the United States after they were detained at Philadelphia International Airport and sent back overseas under the immigration order told "NBC Nightly News" that they voted for Donald Trump.

“I understand he wants to make America safe,” Sarmad Assali said. "We're all on with this. I definitely want to be in a safe place. But people need us and we need to be there for them."

[Continues]

Yeah, while I was shoveling my Aunt's driveway I was thinking if he does get impeached, he might run again. And might win again.
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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2017, 01:47:13 PM »
It's difficult for me to feel any sympathy for that. They voted for that, and they got it.

Also, something like this sucks massively:
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[...]His mother, a permanent U.S. resident, had lived in America since 1995. But when Hager got to the airport in Iraq, she was turned away, and so were two of his nephews and a niece, because of Trump’s executive order. She died the following day.

source

Plus that 5 year old...

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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2017, 02:21:43 PM »
Davin's source leads to a nice, concise, set of problems the Dumpsrer faces - of his own making:

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To Russia With Treason
There is far too much smoke to believe there isn’t a fire in the area of dubious dealings between Vladimir Putin and Trump’s inner circle. [...]

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Business Conflict of Interest
President Trump thinks he won by not putting his business interests in a blind trust but, in [not ?] doing so, may have sowed the seeds of his downfall. [...]

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His Ill-Advised War With The Media
President Trump has spent his whole life experiencing media coverage from the vantage point of being a celebrity. If People Magazine or Vanity Fair was going to print something he didn’t like he could easily bully or cajole them into backing down. He never had to worry about the harsh and brutal truth seeing the light of day. [...]

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Re: Deeper into the Trump Abyss.
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2017, 12:28:29 PM »
It's difficult for me to feel any sympathy for that. They voted for that, and they got it.

Also, something like this sucks massively:
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[...]His mother, a permanent U.S. resident, had lived in America since 1995. But when Hager got to the airport in Iraq, she was turned away, and so were two of his nephews and a niece, because of Trump’s executive order. She died the following day.

source

Plus that 5 year old...
Looks like the article I linked is misleading. She did die, but the circumstances around her death are not clear nor confirmed.

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