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Alternative Facts
« on: January 23, 2017, 05:36:14 AM »
Alternative Facts (Alt-Facts) is a phrase conjured up by Kellyanne Conway.  Thus we stroll further down the path of believing the lie. We can now have our own facts as well as our own opinions.  Conversation becomes more difficult.  Sigh.

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Re: Alternative Facts
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2017, 05:38:40 AM »
Truth is democratic, unless the majority disagrees with you, or didn't you know?  ;)
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Re: Alternative Facts
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2017, 05:48:02 AM »
Truth is democratic, unless the majority disagrees with you, or didn't you know?  ;)

Yes, the winners make the facts, I suppose.

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Re: Alternative Facts
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2017, 05:50:20 AM »
Been practiced since humanity discovered conflict. :-\

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Re: Alternative Facts
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2017, 05:56:10 AM »
Truth is democratic, unless the majority disagrees with you, or didn't you know?  ;)

Yes, the winners make the facts, I suppose.

Well, the winners had command of history in the old days, currently the Internet means history gets promulgated by all sides every minute. Just a case of which version Joe and Joan Public swallow day by day.

Hard to hide evidence like the size of the crowds. Of course, some will claim, photoshopping . . .
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Re: Alternative Facts
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2017, 06:15:33 AM »
Just dicovered Politico, could be a favourite for me
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First, his team will be very combative, even when the facts are not on their side, trusting that their political base dislikes the news media and will believe them no matter what. Sometimes, they are likely to muddy the water or throw a hand grenade into a political debate just to change the headlines.
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Re: Alternative Facts
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2017, 07:53:43 AM »
Alternative Facts (Alt-Facts) is a phrase conjured up by Kellyanne Conway.  Thus we stroll further down the path of believing the lie. We can now have our own facts as well as our own opinions.  Conversation becomes more difficult.  Sigh.

What are alternative facts?  Like trivia about grunge bands or something?

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Re: Alternative Facts
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2017, 08:36:57 AM »
Alternative Facts (Alt-Facts) is a phrase conjured up by Kellyanne Conway.  Thus we stroll further down the path of believing the lie. We can now have our own facts as well as our own opinions.  Conversation becomes more difficult.  Sigh.

What are alternative facts?  Like trivia about grunge bands or something?
If it's anything like the Alt-right, then they are racist "facts."

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Re: Alternative Facts
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2017, 09:27:48 AM »
Alternative Facts (Alt-Facts) is a phrase conjured up by Kellyanne Conway.  Thus we stroll further down the path of believing the lie. We can now have our own facts as well as our own opinions.  Conversation becomes more difficult.  Sigh.

I don't think anybody is strolling along with Conway except the people who were willing to swallow lies from her and Trump all along. The rest of us agree with Chuck Todd's response to her: "Alternative facts are not facts, they're falsehoods."

She also issued some sort of threat about how the Trump administration would "revisit our relationship with the press." Constantly calling them "disgusting--the most dishonest human beings on Earth" apparently isn't enough now.
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Re: Alternative Facts
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2017, 10:56:51 AM »
My 2cts. How factual is the press? I've noticed that the yellow press is more prominent than ever. What I find in many newspapers are opinions and insinuations instead of a real journalistic, well investigated facts. It doesn't seem to make much of a different whether the newspaper is liberal or right wing. The press has a great influence, but barely take any responsibility.
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Re: Alternative Facts
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2017, 11:01:16 AM »
Truth is democratic, unless the majority disagrees with you, or didn't you know?  ;)

Yes, the winners make the facts, I suppose.

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Re: Alternative Facts
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2017, 11:07:02 AM »
Truth is democratic, unless the majority disagrees with you, or didn't you know?  ;)

Yes, the winners make the facts, I suppose.

"History is a set of lies agreed upon"
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And..."Party told you to reject all evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell


Meanwhile the Twitter is coming up with some funny alternative fact tweets under the header: #AlternativeFacts such as, I love Mondays#AlternativeFacts
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Re: Alternative Facts
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2017, 11:10:12 AM »
My 2cts. How factual is the press? I've noticed that the yellow press is more prominent than ever. What I find in many newspapers are opinions and insinuations instead of a real journalistic, well investigated facts. It doesn't seem to make much of a different whether the newspaper is liberal or right wing. The press has a great influence, but barely take any responsibility.

That is why I gave up buying papers decades ago. I do not give a damn what the journo or editor thinks the facts are: the reporting of things that actually happen, without frills, without opinions, is what I prefer.
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Re: Alternative Facts
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2017, 11:44:25 AM »
I saw the "Alternative Facts" headline on TV last night while at the gym. Didn't know what it referred to but all I know is that is more bullshit they are throwing down people's throats. There is no such thing as an "alternative fact"
But, uh...well there it is.
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Re: Alternative Facts
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2017, 11:56:09 AM »
Maybe it's like alternative medicine, like homeopathy. That kind of makes sense, because they take a tiny bit of truth and distill it down over and over until it has barely any truth to it at all.

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