I see Davin and I think a few others who deconstruct these posts, so I will give it a WACK!
This post is for the purpose of addressing some common questions often raised by atheists such as, Who or what is God? Why doesn't God prove his existence to me? Where is the evidence for God's existence?
The Bible is a very good place to provide a good answer. In fact, one Bible verse covers it very well. In 21st century English, the passage reads...
Ironically, the Bible is what turned me away from religion. Bet you didn't expect that did you?
"...what may be known about God is clearly evident among them, for God made it clear to them. For his invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship,..." (Romans 1:19, 20).
That makes no sense.
Thus perception plays a very important part in trying to offer an explanation concerning the Creator.
Even if you needed a certain perception to understand whatever the fuck that bible quote meant, the way most people go about it turns them into nothing more than thought police. Some are nicer than other's but they are thought police none the less. Ever hear that quote from Scarface? It went something like "How you like it huh? Every day they tell you what to do! What to think!"
Many, perhaps most, atheists would accept as proof of the existence of God only evidence they can see, feel, touch and take apart and reassemble in a laboratory setting. And, of course, that lab would have to be only where they would have unfettered access.
So, let us reason a bit.
You assume that we don't reason already. And that evidences your lack of critical thinking. The thing is, we make no assumptions. And least I try not to. And even when we do, it goes to that old saying that "we make our own meaning in life".
How would I liken the Creator? Perhaps by looking at the problem in reverse. Let's look at the problem from God's point of view.
In Isaiah is a fitting description of the problem and with an element of reason comes understanding.
"There is One who dwells above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers...." Isaiah 40:22
Could you rightly expect a grasshopper to fully explain a human or human accomplishments like the Hubble space telescope? Or would you be humble enough to learn grasshopper speech and befriend them? Sounds foolish, correct? That is the dilemma.
We've addressed this issue before. Although it was about how smart a starfish was and it's comprehension of things beyond itself. So for starters, THE EARTH IS NOT A CIRCLE! And two, grasshoppers are damn retarded, we aren't (mostly). Plus, I don't see anything about "befriending" or what have you in the quote you gave us. So again, I think you're just adding non-existing meaning to your own source material. And some people do befriend grasshoppers. Hell, I've seen some people keep praying mantises as pets.
Further on this line of thought is the difference between humans and chimpanzees is about one percent of DNA. On that scale what would a creature be like who was one percent greater than humans in their DNA? If their intellect would follow the same scale, could we ever hope to understand them? Much less be on par with them? And yet God is orders of magnitude greater than chimpanzees or grasshopper-like humans.
The difference is, all these things actually make contact with humans. Things we can "see, feel, touch and take apart and reassemble in a laboratory setting" as you put it. And along those lines, you seem to be saying that God has not? If so, then we can reasonably say that God does not exist. A good analogy for this is from Niel Degrasse Tyson (who I also seen give your arguement). If you're looking for a bear in a certain geographical area, and you do everything to find him, but their is no evidence like paw prints or droppings, you've proven he's not there, let's move on. You know who I have seen though and does not exist? Santa. But who knows, maybe the real Santa is among those guys who sit at the shopping mall all day in December.
And here is one item we all see without any understanding. Something so basic it has no record anywhere in the Bible as having been created. And that even though many think it is listed among the creations attributed to God. And what is that? LIFE.
The Bible tells us this at Psalm 36:9 simply that the 'source of life is God'. Much has been hypothesized about life. Some have speculated about life having a chemical nature. Some have claimed that by assembling certain molecules together they have created life. But when pressed, they admit they can not and did not create life. It cannot be disassembled and reassembled. Some have speculated that life is a form of energy as yet not understood.
Yes that's because we don't assume things. We look at the evidence and say it was LIKELY this might have happened, but we don't know for sure yet. Just like how casinos play games so that it is LIKELY they will win. And when you find a way to make it LIKELY you will win (counting cards) it becomes illegal.
And there is God. If we go back to Romans 1:20 we see it speaks about the creation as giving us insight into God. So look at the creation. Focus on Isaiah 40:25, 26. "To whom can you liken me to make me his equal?” says the Holy One.
26 “Lift up your eyes to heaven and see. Who has created these things?
It is the One who brings out their army by number; He calls them all by name.
Because of his vast dynamic energy and his awe-inspiring power, Not one of them is missing."
Science today admit every star fulfills a purpose. Did you know we ourselves are star stuff? And even the super heavy elements seem to come from the collision of neutron stars. So not even a single star is missing.
Let me ask you something: Why do you think it is a WHO that made everything?
Science also tells us eventually the universe itself will run down. Over 3000 years ago the Psalmist spoke of an immense maintenance project needed to fix the universe itself. Read for yourself Psalm 102:25-27. Makes for very interesting reading.
Oh. And DNA; Look at Psalm 139:16. "Your eyes even saw me as an embryo; All its parts were written in your book Regarding the days when they were formed, Before any of them existed.' Written more than 3,000 years before we had amassed enough knowledge on our own to understand, how would you explain that passage?
It actually says "Your eyes saw my unformed body". This is from a quick internet search and confirmed by multiple sources. I could pull out my own Bible, but it's in the attic, and it's cold up there. I don't even know how the mice live there.
So, for a lowly human to define in human terms a being vastly more complex with knowledge and the ability to make and use forces beyond our comprehension, is at best an exercise in futility.
The same could be said about aliens. How do we know ALIENS aren't watching us? How do we know god isn't and ALIEN? Why? Because aliens.
But a few things I do know. The Bible provides compelling evidence that God exists. It encourages us to build faith in God, not by blindly believing religious assertions, but by using our “power of reason” and “mental perception.”
I think I've effectively invalidated all of your arguments, so therefore this final one is invalid by default.
The existence of an orderly universe containing life points to a Creator.
The Bible says: “Of course, every house is constructed by someone, but the one who constructed all things is God.” (Hebrews 3:4)
Making assumptions again...
Although this logic is simple, many well-educated people find it to be powerful. For example, the late astronomer Allan Sandage once said regarding the universe: “I find it quite improbable that such order came out of chaos. There has to be some organizing principle. God to me is a mystery, but is the explanation for the miracle of existence, why there is something instead of nothing.”
Logic is only simple for those too dumb to use it effectively. Example, "why is there something instead of nothing? Because God!" That wasn't hard. Just because this guy was an astronomer, it doesn't make him all knowing. There are plenty of things he didn't know.
Bible writers had scientific knowledge that was beyond the understanding of their contemporaries. For example, in ancient times many peoples believed that the earth was supported by an animal, such as an elephant, a boar, or an ox. In contrast, the Bible says that God is “suspending the earth upon nothing.” (Job 26:7) Similarly, the Bible correctly describes the shape of the earth as a “sphere,” or “globe. or circle (Isaiah 40:22) Many people feel that the most reasonable explanation for such advanced understanding is that Bible writers received their information from God.
It sounds like maybe the writers just copied the animal supporting idea? It also sounds like you need to go back to school and learn what a circle is and how it's different from a sphere.
The Bible answers many difficult questions, the type of questions that when not satisfactorily answered can lead a person to atheism. For example: If God is loving and all-powerful, why is there suffering and evil in the world? Why is Religion so often an influence for bad rather than for good? See Titus 1:6 Could it be the unsatisfactory answers to questions has caused you to be where you are?
So have I completely answered the questions posed? Probably not. However, at the same time, I hope I have raised questions that honest, open-minded individuals will seek answers to.
You can ask me and I promise to try and answer your questions using reason, logic and the Bible. I like a good challenge.
You have shown me, lack of reason, logic, and knowledge of the Bible. Your argument is invalid. Good day sir.