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The 2nd amendment. (the right to bere/bare/bear arms)
« on: November 13, 2015, 01:32:11 AM »
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Re: The 2nd amendment. (the right to bere/bare/bear arms)
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2015, 03:26:37 AM »
A different take on the anti-gun stance; not belligerent, (which puts people off),  :-* but punches the message home.
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Re: The 2nd amendment. (the right to bere/bare/bear arms)
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2015, 11:44:43 AM »
Interesting take on it, but I doubt it will have any actual impact.

Our gun laws are a joke. Too many loopholes.

What good does it do to lock your front door, when the window, back and side doors are wide open?

Gotta have background checks and waiting periods on all gun sales, public and private.
Plus laws to hold those accountable who sell without following the laws.
And a more comprehensive mental health system to shore up the screening process.
... and limits on what types of weapons and ammo you can buy. Not sure I want my neighbor having a tank or a SAM, no matter how responsible he is.

It's a tall order, for sure, but that doesn't mean we can't implement some of it.

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Re: The 2nd amendment. (the right to bere/bare/bear arms)
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2015, 10:48:21 PM »
My first thing would be to make the use of safes or gun lockers mandatory, like it is here in Norway.
If guns can be stolen while the owners are out of the house there will still be way too many guns out there in the black/gray market.
Not to mention all the "kids found daddy's gun" stories.

But yeah, Joe. Background checks and updated gun registries are also a must.


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Re: The 2nd amendment. (the right to bere/bare/bear arms)
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2015, 11:10:36 AM »
I think I may have the minority stance here when it comes to firearms and the debate surrounding the legislation thereof. 

With that said I understand the point the video was attempting to make.  However, it also gives the impression that there has been little to no "restrictive" legislation on firearms in the U.S. since the time of the Brown Bess.  In reality there has been substantial legislation over the years.  It also can be interpreted to imply that the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution is antiquated and in need of revision - many opponents calling for the outright deletion of the amendment from the Bill of Rights. 

Any crime statistics, country models of legislation, historical reviews and Constitutional law rulings aside - this boils down more to an ideological debate with the problem being there is little common ground with many seemingly simple solutions being much more complicated when truly examined in detail.

The other side is one regarding the idea of freedom over control.  One must be reduced in order to increase the other.

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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2015, 06:57:00 PM »
How many more times do we have to hear, after a mass shooting, that the shooter had mental issues?
Surely it can't be this hard to fix. Get this info on the NICS!

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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2015, 07:44:52 PM »
How many more times do we have to hear, after a mass shooting, that the shooter had mental issues?
Surely it can't be this hard to fix. Get this info on the NICS!

Every western country has people with mental health issues, yet we still have more mass shootings by far. So it's not just that.

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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2015, 08:45:06 PM »
How many more times do we have to hear, after a mass shooting, that the shooter had mental issues?
Surely it can't be this hard to fix. Get this info on the NICS!

Every western country has people with mental health issues, yet we still have more mass shootings by far. So it's not just that.

I liked that ad. Where did you find it?

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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2015, 03:06:56 AM »
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Re: The 2nd amendment. (the right to bere/bare/bear arms)
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2015, 07:55:09 AM »
The Onion has a good take on it:
http://www.theonion.com/article/gorilla-sales-skyrocket-after-latest-gorilla-attac-30860

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Gorilla Sales Skyrocket After Latest Gorilla Attack

SAN DIEGO—Following the events of last week, in which a crazed western lowland gorilla ruthlessly murdered 21 people in a local shopping plaza after escaping from the San Diego Zoo, sources across the country confirmed Thursday that national gorilla sales have since skyrocketed.

“After seeing yet another deranged gorilla just burst into a public place and start killing people, I decided I need to make sure something like that never happens to me,” said 34-year-old Atlanta resident Nick Keller, shortly after purchasing a 350-pound mountain gorilla from his local gorilla store. “It just gives me peace of mind knowing that if I’m ever in that situation, I won’t have to just watch helplessly as my torso is ripped in half and my face is chewed off. I’ll be able to use my gorilla to defend myself.”

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Re: The 2nd amendment. (the right to bere/bare/bear arms)
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2016, 12:39:54 PM »
I am against any form of weapons that were made to do unnecessary harm to others, and instead I am in favor of martial arts and such, within reasonable limits.

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