Although I'm totally lacking in culture I wouldn't mock you for being gay. If I find your view to be ridiculous I won't feel constrained from mocking you though, even if I am going to be labelled a homophobe.
Mock me and I will mock you back. No dialogue will occur.
Treat me with respect and I will treat you with respect. Dialogue will occur.
Mockery has no place on a board populated by intelligent people.
There are many things I would like to say to people here but don't because I am not looking to offend others. I am here to talk about important issues. I like humor, and I employ it where it will not offend.
How extraordinarily boring, have you employed any lately? I may have missed it.
All over the board, actually, and I have gotten many comments of LOL and ROTFLMAO. You should not accuse me of something unless you have the facts.
Why is it wrong to want serious discussion on a serious topic without a string of pointless jokes that dilute the value of the conversation? I usually ignore the jokes, but in this case I would not have been able to sleep at night if I did not point out how unfair they were. In the end, defending my community is more important that you or this board. don't care about this board the way I care about people who have deeply been hurt and don't know where to turn. I do what I do as a teacher and as a volunteer worker because often, if I don't, no one will. Much of what I encounter is deeply disturbing. So, no, I cannot laugh at these "jokes."
It would depend on the context, if a parent was talking about their child I'd advise against it. A person who had cancer might appreciate a bald joke, I might risk it. They might not like being treated like a fragile thing wrapped in cotton wool. You're not a spokesperson for cancer sufferers as well are you?
You are just plain rude here, and you conduct is unacceptable. When did I ever claim to represent cancer sufferers or anyone else? Why would you sarcastically ask if I had? What I do claim is that I am a teacher whose classroom contains no mockery and no judgment. That means gay people cannot mock heterosexuals and for the same reason heterosexuals cannot mock gay people. That means people of color cannot mock whites for the same reason that whites cannot mock people of color. If you don't like it, take it up with my university. It is the university's code of conduct to ensure everyone's dignity, and I have taught there for seven years after teaching in a horrible university for eleven years.
You have also completely missed the context.
Look carefully at the exact words I wrote. A few posts back I stated that some people would prefer to identify as neither male nor female publicly while others would prefer not to select any option. Similarly, some cancer survivors do not like jokes about what they have gone through while others adore them and tell them themselves. It depends on the person. (And I can say that since I know quite a few cancer survivors.) This is a public forum, and you do not know where people are coming from. For that reason, if there is a chance that a joke can hurt someone, it must be avoided.
Why hurt someone for no reason? That is the question I have been asking all my life, and one of the main reasons I became an atheist.
We whine do we?
Without question. And that is the observation of others who are not on the board, not just me. Personally, I don't think it is a bad thing. Atheists are the victims of many, and they have the right to whine in order to vent. I did not mean to imply that whining was a bad thing. In many cases, I think it is necessary. I whine because others here whine.
Well they might malign other groups, perhaps the other groups deserved to be maligned.
By that logic, if Christians malign atheists through lack of logic and supernatural beliefs, perhaps atheists deserve to be maligned.
What, someone's going to off themselves because of En_Route's post? I'm not sure all the LGBTQ community would welcome you as an advocate, making trivial points, always playing the victim, it trivialises the important issues.
When did I ever say everyone in the LGBTQ community would welcome (or even agree with) me? Obviously, many would and many would not. I speak for myself and people I know who are often too afraid to speak for themselves. I do not speak for the whole LGBTQ community, nor do I agree with every aspect of it. For example, when white gays exclude gays of color from bars, I want no part of those white gays. Then again, I hate bars anyway, so bar and club culture is not for me--although I think they are a good thing for others. There is no uniform voice or uniform way of looking at the world in the LGBTQ community, and it is simplistic thinking to think there is.
It is offensive for you to say that I "always play the victim" or am "making trivial points." What is trivial to you is not necessarily trivial to me. Who are you to judge me? Who are you to say what I have been through? Who are you to determine whether or not I am a victim? Yes, who are you indeed?
No I hadn't noticed, there is and have been quite a few. Have we fallen below some acceptable quota?
That is a snarky remark. It is not worthy of you.
Well if they find this place homophobic I think they are being unreasonable,
And now you judge my friends, whom you don't even know. They have the right to say whatever they wish about this board--especially since the prevailing attitude here is that anyone has the right to say whatever he or she wishes. Do not take it upon yourself to judge my friends. You don't know them. You don't know what torture heterosexist society has put them through. You do not know if they are reasonable or unreasonable.
Are they victims? Most definitely.