I'd rather you didn't call me pathetic. I think that both Tank and En_route have acted poorly towards each other in the past. I don't think I'm "crowding around" anyone, simply stating that, all things being considered, I think the ban was justified in the end. If En_route was able to defend his position without name calling or playing the passive-aggressive "go ahead and ban me" route (twice), I'd agree that banning him would be completely uncalled for. But we do have civility rules here, whether anyone likes them or not, and I think he consistently violated them far more than any moderator.
I wasn't calling anyone pathetic, just that gang mentality which is easy to get caught up in without realising.
Point out which civility rules he broke apart from the stuff with McQ.
I'm not a moderator, so I don't get to make the calls on what's "civilized", but this was his response to McQ who said that ER was acting belligerent with "even him".
"Even with me". You need to get over yourself.Now exercise the power that obviously gives you such a thrill, and lends you that sense of importance which it is safe to assume is lacking elsewhere in your life, and exclude me from your charmed circle.
Then he got on with his "ban me" nonsense, which ended in a stalemate. But not before he went to the "true or false" thread (completely unrelated to any of the disagreements), where posted the following.
No, but I have grown tired of being patronised by some self-important third-raters (you know who you are).
I don't see why either of those situations required him to get personal and, frankly, that combined with his apparent inability to ever let anyone else get the last word doesn't give me the most sympathy for him. I do agree that Tank probably had a pretty short fuse with him last going off, and the merit of his responses are debatable but, like Siz, I don't know if I would have had much more restraint if I was in his place. Actually, when En_route and I got into it a few months ago, I pm'd Tank and asked him to keep me accountable because I was afraid I might start saying something uncivil/that I'd regret. Tank's response to me wasn't "Oh yeah, I like you better! Fuck that guy!" It was a very reasonable "you guys probably won't agree on this issue, try to calm down, etc."
After all of this happened, I did come to kind of like En_route and I'm not jumping up and down with joy to see him go. I just don't see what else could have happened if he was unwilling to change how he handles conflict.
EDIT: Changed "forum" to "thread" after first quote, sorry to mislead.