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Operations Desk => Forum Suggestions & Announcements => Topic started by: Kekerusey on September 04, 2016, 11:01:41 PM

Title: Ratings
Post by: Kekerusey on September 04, 2016, 11:01:41 PM
At the risk of going all facebook on everyone ... what about ratings for posts?

Keke
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: Siz on September 04, 2016, 11:31:47 PM
*dislike*
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: xSilverPhinx on September 04, 2016, 11:56:30 PM
I personally don't like the idea of a kudos system. In other forums that I occasionally frequent that do have such a system in place it seems that getting "likes" or accumulating reputation points becomes an end in itself for some people, and many times those with the most reputation points are seen as the most credible and trustworthy, even if what they say is complete crap. In essence, it boils down to more likeable people=more credible.   

We had a few of threads on this but due to the Great Crash we had not too long ago in which many threads are floating somewhere in the internet ether, I couldn't find the more recent one.

Here are a couple of ancient threads on the subject that turned up in a search:

http://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=8281.0 (http://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=8281.0)

http://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=7418.0 (http://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=7418.0)
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: Tank on September 05, 2016, 06:38:27 AM
Quote from: Kekerusey on September 04, 2016, 11:01:41 PM
At the risk of going all facebook on everyone ... what about ratings for posts?

Keke
Why?Seriously. Lay out what you consider the pros and cons and we can consider it again.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: OldGit on September 05, 2016, 09:38:46 AM
Much better not.  Fernanda's observations are right, in my experience.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: Kekerusey on September 05, 2016, 12:08:41 PM
Quote from: Tank on September 05, 2016, 06:38:27 AMWhy? Seriously. Lay out what you consider the pros and cons and we can consider it again.

The [expletive deleted] pros and cons? Gimme a break!

I just thought it was a nice way to show appreciation, that's all.

Keke
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: Tank on September 05, 2016, 01:05:00 PM
Quote from: Kekerusey on September 05, 2016, 12:08:41 PM
Quote from: Tank on September 05, 2016, 06:38:27 AMWhy? Seriously. Lay out what you consider the pros and cons and we can consider it again.

The [expletive deleted] pros and cons? Gimme a break!

I just thought it was a nice way to show appreciation, that's all.

Keke
LOL! This issue has been discussed a lot. If you're not fussed then we'll go for a no on the issue. I wanted to read your input, without stating my opinion, in case you brought something new to the discussion. Many years ago I joined a forum on photography (Photo SIG). By sheer coincidence I was one of the first couple of hundred members. I was there for about 6 months when they introduced a thumbs-up thumbs-down rating system. Within a couple of weeks the place had degenerated into a clique driven bitch fest! So I left. I've been on other forums where they have become clique driven and disintegrated as a result, Richard Dawkins Forum being the most notable. Those two experience have coloured my opinion on like/not-like and secret areas, a big no to both as far as I am concerned. Unless somebody can suggest a reason. Hence the question.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: Kekerusey on September 05, 2016, 01:37:48 PM
Quote from: Tank on September 05, 2016, 01:05:00 PMLOL! This issue has been discussed a lot. If you're not fussed then we'll go for a no on the issue. I wanted to read your input, without stating my opinion, in case you brought something new to the discussion. Many years ago I joined a forum on photography (Photo SIG). By sheer coincidence I was one of the first couple of hundred members. I was there for about 6 months when they introduced a thumbs-up thumbs-down rating system. Within a couple of weeks the place had degenerated into a clique driven bitch fest! So I left. I've been on other forums where they have become clique driven and disintegrated as a result, Richard Dawkins Forum being the most notable. Those two experience have coloured my opinion on like/not-like and secret areas, a big no to both as far as I am concerned. Unless somebody can suggest a reason. Hence the question.

Fair enough.

Keke
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: Asmodean on September 05, 2016, 02:24:38 PM
Personally, I'm not opposed to the idea as such, but I would rather read positive/negative comments than compare the number of likes/dislikes.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: Firebird on September 05, 2016, 06:42:01 PM
I'm not a fan of the idea either
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: Tom62 on September 05, 2016, 06:54:16 PM
Quote from: Firebird on September 05, 2016, 06:42:01 PM
I'm not a fan of the idea either

Me neither.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: Pasta Chick on September 07, 2016, 01:06:50 AM
"Like" systems exist as operant conditioning for posting. Sort of brilliant but also scary manipulative. Especially with the Facebook's introduction of sound with notifications - there literally marking and rewarding us.

The problem is in most venues, activity is valued more than content. So you get a flurry of vapid click-bait crap in a giant popularity contest.
Title: Re: Ratings
Post by: Tank on September 07, 2016, 06:47:23 AM
Quote from: Pasta Chick on September 07, 2016, 01:06:50 AM
"Like" systems exist as operant conditioning for posting. Sort of brilliant but also scary manipulative. Especially with the Facebook's introduction of sound with notifications - there literally marking and rewarding us.

The problem is in most venues, activity is valued more than content. So you get a flurry of vapid click-bait crap in a giant popularity contest.
I'd not considered the 'training' aspect of a 'Like' system. Another nail it its coffin for me.