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Title: Allow Me To Reintroduce Myself
Post by: Arturo on April 21, 2016, 03:16:50 AM
I am Apathy. I am diagnosed as Schizoaffective. I waited until you got to know me a bit until I decided to put this out there. As Neil deGrasse Tyson and I have in common that we like to avoid labels because it puts out preconceived ideas first. But as we don't have in common, I like to put the label out there sometimes because it makes me feel cool.

Interested in something Schizoaffective related? Ask me here, I will be happy to fill your curiosities.
Title: Re: Allow Me To Reintroduce Myself
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 21, 2016, 03:33:23 AM
 :wave hi:

I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with labels, except when they oversimplify complex and sometimes debilitating conditions. There is generally a lot of stigma and general ignorance attached to labels such as "schizoaffective", "schizophrenic", "manic depressive", "autistic" among others that might make many prefer not to disclose that sort of information.

On the other hand, I think it is a cool thing when one self-advocates by embracing a label.  :smilenod:
Title: Re: Allow Me To Reintroduce Myself
Post by: Firebird on April 21, 2016, 03:38:28 AM
What is schizoaffective, and how does it differ, if at all, from schizophrenia?
Title: Re: Allow Me To Reintroduce Myself
Post by: Arturo on April 21, 2016, 03:59:20 AM
Quote from: Firebird on April 21, 2016, 03:38:28 AM
What is schizoaffective, and how does it differ, if at all, from schizophrenia?

Schizoaffective is essentially Schizophrenia+ a Mood disorder like bipolar or depression.

DSM-5 Critereon A for Schizoaffective Disorder
"An uninterrupted period of illness during which there is a major mood episode (major depressive or manic) concurrent with Criterion A of schizophrenia."

Critereon A for Schizophrenia
"A. Two (or more) of the following, each present for a significant portion of time during a

1 -month period (or less if successfully treated). At least one of these must be (1 ), (2), or (3):

1. Delusions.

2. Hallucinations.

3. Disorganized speech (e.g., frequent derailment or incoherence).

4. Grossly disorganized or catatonic behavior.

5. Negative symptoms (i.e., diminished emotional expression or avolition)."

The DSM-5 is the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders 5th Edition. The go-to manual for diagnosing a person to have a mental disability.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwD-YtZFWfxMbWs2UC1WdWJzZTQ/edit?pli=1

And I seen a Khan Academy video on schizoaffective disorder which says that the prognosis is usually better than schizophrenia, although people with this illness can recover at any level of success between schizophrenia (which is horribly low) and the mood disorder (which is variably high). So they are pretty similar, schizophrenia and schizoaffective disorder. But differ mainly on moods.
Title: Re: Allow Me To Reintroduce Myself
Post by: Arturo on April 21, 2016, 04:09:35 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on April 21, 2016, 03:33:23 AM
:wave hi:

I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with labels, except when they oversimplify complex and sometimes debilitating conditions. There is generally a lot of stigma and general ignorance attached to labels such as "schizoaffective", "schizophrenic", "manic depressive", "autistic" among others that might make many prefer not to disclose that sort of information.

On the other hand, I think it is a cool thing when one self-advocates by embracing a label.  :smilenod:

I've lived in the city and I've noticed that there, labels can get you into trouble mainly because they can be thrown around as a weapon. So there is a lot of effort to not be objectified by being put under a label. But I've noticed that in the suburbs that they are completely the opposite. Labels are embraced and used as tools to flaunt oneself. A tactic I feel makes people weird. But thank you for the encouragment.
Title: Re: Allow Me To Reintroduce Myself
Post by: Magdalena on April 21, 2016, 06:31:43 AM
Hello, Apathy, welcome, again.  :computerwave:
First, I would like to say thank you for trusting us, and sharing something very personal.

Questions, but not about being Schizoaffective.
Why is it important to you that we know this? If you wouldn't have said anything, I never would've thought you were Schizoaffective, I have never even heard that word before. I liked you before knowing this, I still like you, nothing has changed.
Do you think something will change, now? Do people change around you once you tell them?
Title: Re: Allow Me To Reintroduce Myself
Post by: Arturo on April 21, 2016, 06:46:59 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on April 21, 2016, 06:31:43 AM
Hello, Apathy, welcome, again.  :computerwave:
First, I would like to say thank you for trusting us, and sharing something very personal.

Questions, but not about being Schizoaffective.
Why is it important to you that we know this? If you wouldn't have said anything, I never would've thought you were Schizoaffective, I have never even heard that word before. I liked you before knowing this, I still like you, nothing has changed.
Do you think something will change, now? Do people change around you once you tell them?

I just like to be honest.
Title: Re: Allow Me To Reintroduce Myself
Post by: Magdalena on April 21, 2016, 07:20:33 AM
^^^
OK. That's good to know.
I'm sure there's a lot of people here who would like to know the scientific term that was given to whatever it is that makes me do the things I do, and say the things I say, but I think I'll leave them guessing.  :grin:
No,  >:(  Bruno! Don't say anything! You too, Crow!  >:(
;D
Title: Re: Allow Me To Reintroduce Myself
Post by: Arturo on April 21, 2016, 07:32:11 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on April 21, 2016, 07:20:33 AM
^^^
OK. That's good to know.
I'm sure there's a lot of people here who would like to know the scientific term that was given to whatever it is that makes me do the things I do, and say the things I say, but I think I'll leave them guessing.  :grin:
No,  >:(  Bruno! Don't say anything! You too, Crow!  >:(
;D

I already have a pretty good idea.
Title: Re: Allow Me To Reintroduce Myself
Post by: Magdalena on April 21, 2016, 02:44:24 PM
Quote from: Apathy on April 21, 2016, 07:32:11 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on April 21, 2016, 07:20:33 AM
^^^
OK. That's good to know.
I'm sure there's a lot of people here who would like to know the scientific term that was given to whatever it is that makes me do the things I do, and say the things I say, but I think I'll leave them guessing.  :grin:
No,  >:(  Bruno! Don't say anything! You too, Crow!  >:(
;D

I already have a pretty good idea.
Please don't tell me if you suspect something...I don't want to know, yet.  :(
I know I'm weird, and I like it.  :grin:
Title: Re: Allow Me To Reintroduce Myself
Post by: Davin on April 21, 2016, 02:53:07 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on April 21, 2016, 07:20:33 AM
I'm sure there's a lot of people here who would like to know the scientific term that was given to whatever it is that makes me do the things I do, and say the things I say, but I think I'll leave them guessing.  :grin:
That scientific term is "awesome."
Title: Re: Allow Me To Reintroduce Myself
Post by: Bad Penny II on April 21, 2016, 03:01:46 PM
Are you a man of wealth and taste?
Assuming not, you didn't say please.
Title: Re: Allow Me To Reintroduce Myself
Post by: Magdalena on April 21, 2016, 03:15:21 PM
Quote from: Davin on April 21, 2016, 02:53:07 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on April 21, 2016, 07:20:33 AM
I'm sure there's a lot of people here who would like to know the scientific term that was given to whatever it is that makes me do the things I do, and say the things I say, but I think I'll leave them guessing.  :grin:
That scientific term is "awesome."
You're awesome.  :tellmemore:
Title: Re: Allow Me To Reintroduce Myself
Post by: Arturo on April 21, 2016, 04:52:59 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on April 21, 2016, 03:01:46 PM
Are you a man of wealth and taste?
Assuming not, you didn't say please.

I am a man of taste, not wealth.
Title: Re: Allow Me To Reintroduce Myself
Post by: Recusant on April 23, 2016, 04:18:52 PM
Quote from: Apathy on April 21, 2016, 03:16:50 AM
I am Apathy. I am diagnosed as Schizoaffective. I waited until you got to know me a bit until I decided to put this out there. As Neil deGrasse Tyson and I have in common that we like to avoid labels because it puts out preconceived ideas first. But as we don't have in common, I like to put the label out there sometimes because it makes me feel cool.

Interested in something Schizoaffective related? Ask me here, I will be happy to fill your curiosities.

Hello and welcome, Apathy. In keeping with your username, I don't care what labels have been applied to you, nor what labels you choose to use for yourself for whatever reason. Your contributions to this site are what matter, and they've been good so far. Carry on.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Allow Me To Reintroduce Myself
Post by: Tom62 on April 23, 2016, 07:44:18 PM
Quote from: Recusant on April 23, 2016, 04:18:52 PM
Quote from: Apathy on April 21, 2016, 03:16:50 AM
I am Apathy. I am diagnosed as Schizoaffective. I waited until you got to know me a bit until I decided to put this out there. As Neil deGrasse Tyson and I have in common that we like to avoid labels because it puts out preconceived ideas first. But as we don't have in common, I like to put the label out there sometimes because it makes me feel cool.

Interested in something Schizoaffective related? Ask me here, I will be happy to fill your curiosities.

Hello and welcome, Apathy. In keeping with your username, I don't care what labels have been applied to you, nor what labels you choose to use for yourself for whatever reason. Your contributions to this site are what matter, and they've been good so far. Carry on.  :thumbsup:

^Hear, Hear!
Title: Re: Allow Me To Reintroduce Myself
Post by: Siz on April 23, 2016, 10:19:02 PM
Quote from: Apathy on April 21, 2016, 03:16:50 AM
I am Apathy. I am diagnosed as Schizoaffective. I waited until you got to know me a bit until I decided to put this out there. As Neil deGrasse Tyson and I have in common that we like to avoid labels because it puts out preconceived ideas first. But as we don't have in common, I like to put the label out there sometimes because it makes me feel cool.

Interested in something Schizoaffective related? Ask me here, I will be happy to fill your curiosities.

Hello Apathy.

I, for one, think that schizoaffecive disorder sounds like fun. Is it really as cool as you portray? Some of us had to pay good money for bad drugs to get the same effects.

Are you familiar with psychoactive drugs, Apathy? Can you tell me the similarities and differences of their effects relative to schizoaffective symptoms?

I tend to be more sociopathic than psychopathic myself (I like the term 'moral insanity') but I'm not very good at it because I suffer spasms of kindness which I often find awkward to follow up.

I don't recall anything of note from reading any of your posts so I can't admit to having got to know you at all, but now I know you're mental you're much more interesting so I might pay more attention.
Title: Re: Allow Me To Reintroduce Myself
Post by: Arturo on April 24, 2016, 02:02:25 AM
Quote from: Siz on April 23, 2016, 10:19:02 PM
Quote from: Apathy on April 21, 2016, 03:16:50 AM
I am Apathy. I am diagnosed as Schizoaffective. I waited until you got to know me a bit until I decided to put this out there. As Neil deGrasse Tyson and I have in common that we like to avoid labels because it puts out preconceived ideas first. But as we don't have in common, I like to put the label out there sometimes because it makes me feel cool.

Interested in something Schizoaffective related? Ask me here, I will be happy to fill your curiosities.

Hello Apathy.

I, for one, think that schizoaffecive disorder sounds like fun. Is it really as cool as you portray?
No, it scary as all hell. The most terrifying thing you could ever imagine times a billion. And it not only ruins your life, but every life of every person you depend on, IF they let you depend on them.

Quote from: Siz on April 23, 2016, 10:19:02 PM
Are you familiar with psychoactive drugs, Apathy? Can you tell me the similarities and differences of their effects relative to schizoaffective symptoms?
Yes and I have taken some before but have since stopped. It triggered my first episode. Unfortunately, I can't answer your other question.

Quote from: Siz on April 23, 2016, 10:19:02 PM
I tend to be more sociopathic than psychopathic myself (I like the term 'moral insanity') but I'm not very good at it because I suffer spasms of kindness which I often find awkward to follow up.

I don't recall anything of note from reading any of your posts so I can't admit to having got to know you at all, but now I know you're mental you're much more interesting so I might pay more attention.

Well isn't that nice.  :heyhey: