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Re: Hey Mags!!
« Reply #90 on: August 11, 2017, 06:24:17 PM »
I'm going to be honest here. What I think of police training: Police are trained to agitate people. And when they are agitated, they attack. And when they attack, police have the excuse to do anything they want from beating them like Rodney King to using effective lethal force. And people hide behind that they are "just doing their job" or that they are "following their training". Yes they are following their training because they are trained to provoke you into a aggressive hostile! There is no such thing as free will if someone knows your triggers, and cops are trained and gain experience to do this!
But, uh...well there it is.
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Re: Hey Mags!!
« Reply #91 on: August 11, 2017, 10:47:16 PM »
I am at risk here for defending cops it seems. 

Arturo, cops are not trained to agitate people. On the contrary, they are trained to try to diffuse potentially bad situations.  I concede that there are a few of them who do come across as assholes looking for a way to make themselves superior.  Those bad actors do not last long in my town.

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Re: Hey Mags!!
« Reply #92 on: August 11, 2017, 11:36:32 PM »
At risk for what? We're not going to go to your house and beat you up.

But cops are good at agitating people in a controlled situation, after getting the upper hand in a struggle, ect. They are so good that I'd say it would take some sort of training because when it happens it just looks too systematic, too well put together.

Explain this. And explain how or why those people in the comments are reacting with aggression. The people getting pepper sprayed were not aggressive, and they had nowhere to go. Yet the other cops let him get away with spraying them in the face.
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Re: Hey Mags!!
« Reply #93 on: August 12, 2017, 04:54:18 AM »
Arturo, cops are not trained to agitate people. On the contrary, they are trained to try to diffuse potentially bad situations. 
I'm sure that's what they're trained to do, diffuse potentially bad situations. How they interpret that training is another thing.
 :grin:

I concede that there are a few of them who do come across as assholes looking for a way to make themselves superior.  Those bad actors do not last long in my town.
I'm sure they don't, they are transferred to what you call the "wrong neighborhoods."


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Re: Hey Mags!!
« Reply #94 on: August 12, 2017, 09:18:07 AM »
Martin Lawrence is as funny as losing both balls to testicular cancer.

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Re: Hey Mags!!
« Reply #95 on: August 12, 2017, 09:18:10 PM »
Martin Lawrence is as funny as losing both balls to testicular cancer.
:lol:
OK. Maybe Martin Lawrence is as funny as losing both balls to testicular cancer, but the message here is racism by police officers and there's nothing funny about that. That's why there is rap, it tells the world about it and a lot of people don't want to hear it because it doesn't affect them...until it does.


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Re: Hey Mags!!
« Reply #96 on: August 12, 2017, 09:31:05 PM »
Martin Lawrence is as funny as losing both balls to testicular cancer.
:lol:

Apparently that's hilarious lol
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Re: Hey Mags!!
« Reply #97 on: August 12, 2017, 09:49:17 PM »
Right now we have some shit going down in Charlottesville Virginia. So far the police have exercised restraint but they dare not let the situation escalate beyond reasonable control. Mace and pepper spray is flying in both directions. The spray is being shot by each opposing side of the conflict, not the police.....yet.

Breaking news: at this time, 4 PM Saturday, 20 people hospitalized, one dead.  Serious stuff. What would you have law enforcement do? 

This is a damned shame. That town is ordinarily peaceful and orderly. It is the home of Univ. Of Virginia, one of the oldest and most genteel of schools.

Arturo's vid has a link to another vid that shows cops in training. They are being shot with pepper spray and otherwise harmed. The idea is for the cops to know first hand how it feels to be sprayed in the eyes or beaten. The premise is that they will be more compassionate when they encounter a conflict.

Degree of police response is to be entirely dependent on the potential danger of the encounter. Assessing the degree of danger, I suspect, is one of the most difficult instant decisions during the heat of a confrontation. That is probably a major cause of some of the abuses and disproportionate actions taken by the cops. Those cases are the ones that get the most headlines. This is definitely not to suggest that police brutality or even unnecessary abuse is to be tolerated at any time or any place.

 


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Re: Hey Mags!!
« Reply #98 on: August 12, 2017, 10:15:42 PM »
Martin Lawrence is as funny as losing both balls to testicular cancer.
:lol:

Apparently that's hilarious lol

I'm not a guy so I don't know how funny that is, but I have a feeling No one is just being sarcastic.  :shifty:
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Re: Hey Mags!!
« Reply #99 on: August 12, 2017, 10:44:31 PM »
Martin Lawrence is as funny as losing both balls to testicular cancer.
:lol:

Apparently that's hilarious lol

I'm not a guy so I don't know how funny that is, but I have a feeling No one is just being sarcastic.  :shifty:
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It's the delivery that counts. Pun intended? Or pun not intended?
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Re: Hey Mags!!
« Reply #100 on: August 13, 2017, 03:11:14 AM »
Right now we have some shit going down in Charlottesville Virginia....
What kind of shit?  :eyebrow:


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Re: Hey Mags!!
« Reply #101 on: August 13, 2017, 05:53:45 AM »
Right now we have some shit going down in Charlottesville Virginia....
What kind of shit?  :eyebrow:

White supremacists and opposing group who are doing some "bad shit"  One of the WS creeps used a car to run down some people, killed one injured about eight or ten more, some severely injured. Lunatic driver captured by police before he could be dismembered by crowd.  Viginia state police helicopter observing the melee, crashed, killed two officers.

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Re: Hey Mags!!
« Reply #102 on: August 13, 2017, 06:18:43 AM »
I heard about that. Not that surprised but pretty pissed about the whole thing.
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Re: Hey Mags!!
« Reply #103 on: August 13, 2017, 06:28:27 AM »
Right now we have some shit going down in Charlottesville Virginia....
What kind of shit?  :eyebrow:

White supremacists and opposing group who are doing some "bad shit"  One of the WS creeps used a car to run down some people, killed one injured about eight or ten more, some severely injured. Lunatic driver captured by police before he could be dismembered by crowd.  Viginia state police helicopter observing the melee, crashed, killed two officers.

I heard about that. Not that surprised but pretty pissed about the whole thing.

Very sad, isn't it?
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Mr. President - we must call evil by its name. These were white supremacists and this was domestic terrorism.


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Re: Hey Mags!!
« Reply #104 on: August 13, 2017, 06:32:42 AM »
mags:
That's why there is rap, it tells the world about it

So they produce a really shitty sound to depict really shitty circumstances?